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| yoitsfrancis | first of all thank you for this opportunity |
| yoitsfrancis | i would like to ask if there is an opening in the Philippines |
| dexy | what kind of candidates is searching msn? |
| yoitsfrancis | thanks |
| MSN_Meir | cvipll: What field? |
| cvip11 | MSN_Meir: image processing, c++? |
| sdrzy | how long left before the round begins, anyone knows? |
| mike | sdrzy: 1 our |
| TAG | sdrzy: 59 minutes |
| mike | sdrzy: err... 1 hour |
| sdrzy | thx |
| MSN_Meir | cvipll: Most of the development is done in redmond or in california |
| TAG | MSN_Meir: What about India ? |
| cvip11 | MSN_Meir: No opening in MA? |
| dexy | MSN_Angela: if someone is eager to come to USA to work for MSN would you help him to obtain work permit? |
| KOTMATPOCKUH | TAG u dont live in india :) |
| MSN_Yvonne | we are trying to hire and work in many areas |
| MSN_Yvonne | depending on the job |
| TAG | KOTMATPOCKUH: But I can relocate to India ;-) |
| MSN_Yvonne | we are doing a lot of recruiting in China as well |
| MSN_Yvonne | Redmond and CA are primary areas |
| TAG | Do you sponsor work visas for China ?? |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | And whats about in Sao Paulo , Brasil ? |
| MSN_Yvonne | Yes, we will help with the work permit |
| KOTMATPOCKUH | what kind of openings if any you have areound toronto, canada? |
| modenl | MSN_Yvonne: Do I need a good rating to apply msn positions? |
| MSN_Meir | dexy: developers with various skills: SQL, application developers, server developers |
| TAG | MSN_Yvonne: even for foreigners ? |
| revtekniques | who would we contact in regards to positions in China? |
| MSN_Yvonne | msn is holding a recruiting event in Toronto Canada next month |
| MSN_Meir | dexy: rev |
| MSN_Yvonne | If you are interested in China... send me your resume yvonnej@microsoft.com and I will forward to the recruiter |
| TAG | How about recruting events in Russia (xUSSR) |
| KOTMATPOCKUH | nice thanks |
| Kawigi | yoitsfrancis: Taga-saan ka? |
| nicka81 | TAG: not sure about MSN but Microsoft is going to have a set of interviews in Moscow on Feb 23rd and 25th |
| vinayvn | MSN_Yvonne: Plz tell me about the openings in India |
| KOTMATPOCKUH | will there be anything on canadian MS website about event in toronto? |
| MSN_Yvonne | good rating? to apply? |
| modenl | MSN_Yvonne: May I directly send you a resume? |
| nicka81 | TAG: me too |
| arshadleghari | in order to get hired does GPA matters? |
| MSN_Yvonne | yes... there is info... |
| MSN_Yvonne | on the ca site |
| MSN_Yvonne | feel free to email me for additioanl info we can send it to you |
| modenl | MSN_Yvonne: I mean do you require a good topcoder rating to apply msn position |
| MSN_Yvonne | I'm afrqaid that I'm missing many of your questions... I'm SLOW |
| MSN_Yvonne | sorry |
| MSN_Yvonne | yes... feel free to email me your resume |
| MSN_Yvonne | yvonnej |
| MSN_Yvonne | As for the product questions |
| arshadleghari | msn people plz tell me that does GPA matters in order to get hired |
| MSN_Yvonne | come help us make a better product!!!! :-) |
| MSN_Angela | I can also take resumes for the Toronto event a-anmcla@microsoft.com |
| TAG | MSN_Yvonne: What technologies you are interested in candidates ? C# or hardcore C++ ? |
| MSN_Yvonne | hi angela |
| MSN_Angela | hi yvonne! |
| MSN_Yvonne | I'm interested in both |
| MSN_Meir | Both |
| nicomp | MSN_ : Why haven't any of you competed on TC? |
| MSN_Yvonne | C# and C++ |
| Kawigi | nicomp: If they had, they'd have been given different handles for this |
| MSN_Yvonne | question re GPA--we take many things into consideration |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: can you please explain me how some newly hired person can make a better product when as a newbie he'll do things that other says him to do |
| nicomp | Kawigi: wasssup? |
| Kawigi | nicomp: not much |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | MSN_Angela: is there any events and openings in Brazil? |
| wander | MSN_Angela: Are you also interested in python? Or only C# and C++? |
| MSN_Yvonne | I've been here since 1993 (couple of years off 2000) |
| MSN_Yvonne | it is part of my job to give feedback |
| MSN_Angela | zhaofu(do_ob): not that i know of but please send a resume |
| MSN_Yvonne | and share my new ideas |
| Kawigi | dexy: You'd still be contributing, and it really doesn't take much time to leave your mark on a product, even if you're not in a position where you make lots of big decisions |
| MSN_Yvonne | I've been back 1 year and as an IC recruiter |
| MSN_Yvonne | I'm helping roll out two ideas division-wide |
| MSN_Yvonne | We are counting on the fact you have additional ideas |
| Nikaustr | sql_lall: Hi, how do you do? |
| MSN_Angela | wander: i haven't seen many python requirements - mostly C++ and C# right now |
| wander | MSN_Angela: Do you know of any C# or python openings in the Netherlands? |
| kclune | MSN_Angela: Do you have any Java requirements at this point? |
| MSN_Yvonne | events in Russia... we just had one |
| MSN_Yvonne | hello to all |
| Yuri_ | MSN_Angela:do you hire in southern california? are there dev centers here? |
| rajashekhara | hi |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: is there such a thing as a 10% 'creative' time for employees (i'm pointing to Google strategy) |
| Zheng | Please tall me which positions you are recruiting? |
| MSN_Yvonne | dev centers in southern CA |
| MSN_Yvonne | not a lot of action is southern CA |
| MSN_Yvonne | I moved up from LA |
| Zheng | in China |
| Kawigi | Yuri_: Do you ask because you don't want to leave southern California? |
| MSN_Yvonne | There may be things I'm not aware of |
| soul_on_fire | dexy: I am sorry ! poor joke. |
| MSN_Yvonne | A good place to check is our career page on our site |
| revtekniques | do you guys sponsor H1 Viasas? |
| Yuri_ | MSN_Yvonne:why isn't there any action in souther ca |
| Yuri_ | Kawigi: yup.. just curious |
| MSN_Angela | revtekniques: yes we do sponsor visas |
| dexy | soul_on_fire: I thought there's some ethic that has to be respected :D i'm open to any kind of suggestions ... |
| MSN_Yvonne | Angela... are you aware of openings in so ca? |
| MSN_Meir | Zheng: We have a lot of opened positions for C#/C++ developers in china, in Shanghai and Beijing |
| rajashekhara | what kind of projects are u recruiting for ? |
| MSN_Yvonne | I recruit for mappoint, virtual earth, digital library |
| MSN_Angela | MSN_Yvonne: i know there ARE some openings in CA just not sure where and what |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: to be more specific-driven ... are you searching for i) programmers ii) architects iii) creative ppl with new ideas |
| MSN_Yvonne | local search, mobile local |
| Nikaustr | MSN_Yvonne: virtual earth? |
| TAG | Nikaustr: local.msn.com |
| TAG | Nikaustr: http://local.live.com/ |
| capoeirist | MSN_Meir: would you consider non-Chinese candidates in the US who are open to moving to China? |
| Nikaustr | TAG: thanx |
| raalveco | hi |
| Yuri_ | the virtual earth looks suspiciously like google earth |
| TAG | Yuri_: reverse ... Microsoft TerraServer was first .. |
| TAG | Yuri_: as well Google Earth = KeyHole .. |
| Kawigi | Yuri_: And Gmail looks suspiciously like other Webmail |
| Excilus | heh |
| MSN_Yvonne | hehee |
| Excilus | Funny how branding works :P |
| chice | hehe |
| dexy | local.live.com can be strong concurrent to maps.google.com if it had -satellite images -faster interface |
| Excilus | people don't even use the word 'mp3 player' anymore. Just ipods. |
| vunderit | yeah |
| MSN_Yvonne | Isn't that funny |
| chice | I use neither MP3Player nor iPod :) |
| kclune | What sort of technical challenges does MSN have to offer? |
| Enogipe | I don't use the word 'ipod'. |
| Enogipe | Oh wait. |
| yoitsfrancis | Are you a Filipino? |
| MSN_Yvonne | I often wonder what my grandparents would say listening to the terms we use... like I got it on ebay |
| TAG | What MSN folks can say on how MSFT has changed in the past 10-20 years ? It is become better or worse ? |
| Excilus | Is the Virtual Earth system going to have a decent address finder/path finder. the google one drives me nuts, and it looks like a pretty cool project. |
| cseiitkgp | admins: who r msn represtatives? |
| TAG | How much of this old Usenet Microsoft job posting are true now ? http://groups.google.com/group/net.jobs/msg/4f2cf440919eeda9 |
| MSN_Yvonne | I worked on MSN as a recruiter when it first started |
| Kawigi | cseiitkgp: The ones with MSN_ in front of their names |
| dexy | i'm sorry ... local.live.com HAS SATELLITE images :D ... it's soooo cool ... but it's slow a bit |
| MSN_Yvonne | I think that it is better |
| dexy | i like bird's eye |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Angela: hi there ? |
| dexy | that google doesn't have :P ... and better interface with more options ... great job! |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Angela: so what sort of opportunities are u giving? |
| Excilus | What kind of positions are available for someone who is looking to complete their degree concurrently. |
| TAG | MSN_Yvonne: Why this is no longer true "The technical hierarchy is kept very simple" .. |
| Excilus | ? |
| mike | what makes working for MSN different from other tech companies? |
| burny | being Canadia, and not having a university degree. how willing/able is MS to work on/around visa requirments, or to do partime work/sponsor a student visa? |
| MSN_Meir | definitely better: the scope of MSN has grown a lot over the last 10 years |
| dexy | toshke: ma da :) |
| FalconsGaze | MSN_folks:How do you groom technical people --?What programs |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Angela: the code4bill contest 2nd phase problems were very easy |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Yvonne: do u give internships as well? |
| MSN_Meir | mike: you can take the time to build a service that will solve customer's problems |
| dexy | it seems that your local.live.com doesn't cache images :( |
| MSN_Yvonne | internships - yes |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Yvonne: what kind of ppl are u looking for?are u looking for fresh graduates as well? |
| dexy | it reloads new images even if i loaded it before |
| MSN_Yvonne | parttime work... we have new benefits this year for parttime people |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Yvonne: so how can i apply for internship at msn? |
| mpaulse | Are the internships only for US citizens? |
| TAG | Do you provide interships for non-students ? |
| MSN_Yvonne | I don't handle the internship area |
| MSN_Yvonne | but would be glad to forward your information to our campus folks |
| MSN_Yvonne | yvonnej@microsoft.com |
| burny | are any of the MSN people here familiar with work visas/immigration? |
| TAG | Can you post answers on MSN Employment Discussion forum http://forums.topcoder.com/?module=ThreadList&forumID=505829 ? |
| burny | ps. I have already passed a few interviews at MS(primarily for contract positions) |
| MSN_Angela | burny: what do you need to know about vias? |
| TAG | MSN_Angela: Are no degrtee is hard limitation for visa ? |
| revtekniques | Why would someone looking for a job work at MSN instead of Google? |
| burny | I am interested in working at, ms, but I do not have a university degree, thus can not aquire a temporary work visa by the standard channels |
| MSN_Angela | cseiitkgp: depends on the group / generally a couple of phone screens / tech screens then interviews |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: How recruiting goes? One sends you resume/CV, then you call him for interview and if he is OK will be assumed? |
| burny | revt: I would prefer msn over google, because msn works on a broader spectrum of problems/technology |
| MSN_Yvonne | types of positions-- we are looking for a broad range since we have a wide variety of projects in msn, front end, back end, Dev, PMs |
| revtekniques | burny...do you work for msn? |
| burny | revk: no I do not |
| mpaulse | What are the minimum qualifications/experience needed to qualify for a position at MSN? |
| revtekniques | thats for the input |
| revtekniques | :) |
| revtekniques | ATTN: MSN REPS - why would someone looking for a job work at MSN instead of Google? |
| MSN_Meir | I'm usually looking for a bachelor in CS for developer positions. |
| mpaulse | 4 years? |
| nothing_ | In which country |
| dexy | MSN_Meir: and for sw engineer? |
| MSN_Meir | dexy: sw= ? |
| dexy | MSN_Meir: software |
| revtekniques | ATTN: what are some benefits of working with MSN over google??? |
| MSN_Yvonne | Some of the benefits working with MS |
| MSN_Meir | revtekniques: Integration of the various products of technologies |
| JJohansson | free soda |
| MSN_Yvonne | My husband is in Development here |
| burny | Angela: I have a highschool diploma, no university, and about 8years of work experience, but can only aquire about 1.5years of 'signed letterhead' from previous employers. I am interested/willing to attend university, but can not afford it financially. |
| burny | Angela: Who would be the best person for me to talk to, to figure something out? |
| MSN_Yvonne | both of us have had the oppt to work in a wide variety of technologies and products |
| MSN_Meir | revtekniques: Integrate windows with online services |
| gomzynewbie | wht r the employement opp in india? |
| MSN_Angela | burny: in a perfect world we would love to see a degree but we also recognize great real world experience - if you would like to talk more - send me your resume |
| MSN_Meir | revtekniques: Discover what shipping a product rather than a beta means |
| burny | ok angela: what address to send it to? |
| Enogipe | MSN_Meir: Ha, nice. |
| revtekniques | MSN_Meir: does google not offer these benefits as well? |
| MSN_Angela | burny: a-anmcla@microsoft.com |
| revtekniques | MSN_Meir: I'm sorry... I'm just curious |
| MSN_Meir | revtekniques: No problem. both companies have strenghs |
| cseiitkgp | MSN_Angela: do u work in field of java technologies as well? |
| MSN_Meir | revtekniques: for me, I works in windows CE before working in MSN |
| tforcram | What value would someone with a degree in Computer Engineer have to MSN? |
| revtekniques | MSN_Meir: if you guys are interested in MSN oppprtunities...please apply here... |
| revtekniques | MSN_Meir: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
| alnite | to MSN staff: could you please say it again what positions are you currently hiring? |
| TAG | How many positions do you plan to fill in near term ? |
| Chenhong | Is someone without any computer degree able to work for MSN |
| MSN_Yvonne | PM, Dev, Tst |
| MSN_Angela | alnite: i am hiring in developers, pms, sdets (.net) |
| MSN_Yvonne | yvonnej@microsoft.com and I will forward you to the right team |
| capoeirist | MSN_Yvonne: people with what type of background are usually hired for PMs? |
| Cosmin.ro | so you don't need java programmers |
| MSN_Meir | revtekniques: About google: You're correct on one aspect: you can integrate with search. But I haven't seen any service that takes really advantage of all the technologie they have developped |
| alnite | MSN_Angela: any specific technologies/API/languages, other than .NET, that you expect from your future employees? |
| joelimlimit | is anyone here? |
| Cosmin.ro | nicka81: thanks a lot |
| joelimlimit | or I just can't see the chat? |
| MSN_Yvonne | still here |
| MSN_Meir | still there |
| joelimlimit | I was wondering if MSN hires summer internship? |
| MSN_Meir | yes |
| joelimlimit | How do I apply for that? |
| Cosmin.ro | nicka81: could you tell me more detailes about google or you don't like to talk about it |
| joelimlimit | And what criteria are you looking for? |
| mindboggler | MSN_Angela: One question which looks like nobody has asked here....is Microsoft planning to release .NET across different platforms(non-windows)? |
| prayanks | Where are the opportunities in MSN, which countries? |
| TAG | mindboggler: nope.. |
| TAG | mindboggler: or you can install it for same price as Windows sold .. |
| MSN_Yvonne | I personally focus on positions in Redmond but we are hiring in many areas |
| MSN_Yvonne | including CA, China, India |
| joelimlimit | So, how do I apply for the summer internships? |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: If you want to send me your resume, I will be happy to forward it to our campus recruiters |
| mindboggler | TAG: when I first read about .NET I head about MIL and all that...so assumed they are doing it to make it cross-platform |
| joelimlimit | Ok, what is your e-mail? |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: meirab@microsoft.com |
| kclune | How quickly can someone move up to positions of higher authority in MSN |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: what are you interested into? Dev, PM or test? |
| MSN_Meir | kclune: define authority.... |
| prayanks | how exactly will MSN shortlist people to recruit out of this SRM ? |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | MSN_Meir: what is PM ? |
| vunderit | is there place for C programmers |
| vunderit | @ microsft |
| kclune | MSN_Meir: Senior developer, architect, PM, VP |
| dexy | zhaofu(do_ob): I think it's project manager |
| MSN_Meir | I believe that you define your scope by the influence of your work |
| Kawigi | dexy: Program Manager, actually |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | dexy: o.k. thanks ... |
| MSN_Meir | kclune: PM can be college hire |
| MSN_Angela | vunderit: i have seen some C requirements |
| nothing_ | MSN_Meir: are u also looking for people in India |
| Kawigi | zhaofu(do_ob): They decide what needs to be done and how it's supposed to work, and write Specs for the Developers |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: Development I will say |
| vunderit | which tems want C programmers |
| MSN_Meir | kclune: senior developer/architect... it depends on the scope of the work you can produce. |
| vunderit | in what part of microsoft products is C used |
| MSN_Meir | kclune: some people move up very quickly |
| zhaofu(do_ob) | Kawigi: so they dont write code (they arent coder) ...right ? |
| dexy | vunderit: I think MS is more C++/C#/VB oriented rather than C, C sounds more Gnome/Linux |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: So, what is the criteria? |
| vunderit | yes..thats whats i thought |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: And if I want a internship at Redmond, do you help to find relocation? |
| mpaulse | C would be used by OS programmers, I would imagine... |
| monvural | do ya'll have internships? |
| vunderit | yes..micrsosoft has an OS |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: I believe so |
| xtzz | oh? |
| MSN_Yvonne | Yes... I just moved over from Kernel... lots of C in that group |
| smartghans | monvural: no |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: the recruiter will get in touch with you |
| MSN_Yvonne | I've hired Java in mappoint |
| monvural | thanks |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: usually candidates go through a couple of screening, then on site interview |
| xtzz | MSN_xxxx is special ID? |
| toshke | L:) |
| toshke | dexy: da |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: so, did you get my resume? |
| vunderit | hows the interview for internships like |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: Yes |
| vunderit | starting with a phone interview |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: Thank you. |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: Also, do you know when approximately I will get in touch? |
| vunderit | what do you look for in a student |
| smartghans | MSN_Meir: What is difference in the salary of btechs and phds |
| cseiitkgp | in ninterview they ask about the questions based on ur cv |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: I'm passing it to the recruiter, I'm not sure what the exact process is. |
| vunderit | only the microsoft skills |
| burny | Angela: thank you for your time, I have just finished sending you my Resume and a short message discribign my current situation. |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: I see. |
| MSN_Meir | smartghans: I'm not sure |
| smartghans | MSN_Meir: ok |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: Are you at Redmond? |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: I'd like you to answer me this question: What are the things that are important for employer when there's graduated student applying for a job? |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: Yes |
| cseiitkgp | last year 4 ppl from my institute went tro redmond for internship...they had just telephonic interviews based on their cvs |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: How is the life at Redmond and working at MSN overall? |
| smartghans | MSN_Meir: what type of project are you currently working on? |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: I really like it. |
| TAG | How MSN different from rest of MSFT ? |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: I love skiing, and moutains are really close |
| vunderit | MSN_M |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: So, you are a full-time, right? |
| MSN_Meir | joelimlimit: yup |
| vunderit | MSN - pls answer my prev questions regd C |
| MSN_Meir | smartghans: windows live ideas (http://ideas.live.com) |
| MSN_Angela | vunderit: what was your question regarding C? |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: Does MSN care about school a lot? |
| joelimlimit | MSN_Meir: and how does MSN look at TopCoder rating? |
| MSN_Meir | vunderit: it's really close to a full time interview |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: dexy there are many things we look for... depending on the project. Email me and we can talk about it more yvonnej@microsoft.com |
| vunderit | when i apply for an internship and get a phone interview call....what is that they look in for..jus the MS product skills or any thing else .. |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: thx :) |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: skiing pretty close |
| MSN_Meir | interview will test your ability to write code, solve problems, interact with the rest of the team |
| amit_sinha | MSN_Meir: do u need be a US citizen for getting the internship |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: I'll look for your email, dexy |
| MSN_Meir | amit_sinha: I'm not sure. I'm not really specialized into recruiting. |
| vunderit | but i got selected for the phone interview! and not a citizen |
| joelimlimit | Does MSN put much weight on either TopCoder or School's name a lot? |
| dexy | MSN_Meir: I like ideas.live.com ... it's plenty of great ideas! |
| dexy | MSN_Meir: new products ... really interesting! |
| TAG | Thanks All for a chat ! |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: MSN takes many things into consideration not just one score or a specific school. |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: It was fun chatting with you |
| joelimlimit | I think it is better for me to leave now :) |
| vunderit | so how is my potential tested |
| joelimlimit | Thank for your help and have a nice day! |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: me too :) it looks MS is preparing seriously for coming hot battle ... and I like it :) |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: nothing like having vision! :- |
| MSN_Yvonne | dexy: :-)_ |
| TAG | dexy: Steve told: "I'm going to f**** kill Google" .. |
| dexy | MSN_Yvonne: deffinitely |
| dexy | byby :) |
| kclune | Good luck everyone in the arena |
| joelimlimit | :) |
| MSN_Yvonne | good luck to all |
| dexy | thx |
| yoitsfrancis | lets get it on! |
| revtekniques | MSN_Meir: GOOD LUCK! |
| yuku | ????? |
| MSN_Meir | dexy: U interested in coming working on the project? |
