trevorfo_MSN | Hi! |
Peterpay | hi |
trevorfo_MSN | I'm from MSN. |
Peterpay | how do you do |
trevorfo_MSN | Great, you? |
Peterpay | how are the things in MSN |
Peterpay | fine, working and working |
trevorfo_MSN | Things are pretty awesome. |
Peterpay | what kind of skills are you looking in programmers |
trevorfo_MSN | I'm in Windows OneCare Live, and the skills we're looking for are quite varied. |
trevorfo_MSN | From core Windows C++ programming (you can learn the windows part, c++ is harder), to C# web services, to data warehousing. |
Peterpay | for example. i've a Bsc in Computer Science, my interest areas are Image Processing , Data Mining and NLP |
trevorfo_MSN | That sounds like a good fit for some of the areas in MSN, but maybe we'll get more MSN people in here who can talk about other stuff. |
trevorfo_MSN | I'm just a developer in OneCare. |
Peterpay | and what do you do there |
trevorfo_MSN | I'm a dev lead working on the core infrastructure pieces for OneCare. |
Peterpay | i'm from mexico, how many posibilites for an Visa Sponsorship |
Peterpay | how is your recluitment method |
trevorfo_MSN | At Microsoft overall, I've generally seen us looking for talent first, and then putting the lawyers on getting people to work. |
Peterpay | yeah |
trevorfo_MSN | I don't know all the ins and outs, but we hire people from all around the world. |
trevorfo_MSN | all the time. |
Peterpay | that's great, im know working in WinFX, not much but i know some things, there are going to be opportunities for Winfx avalon and indgo programmers |
trevorfo_MSN | Our recruitment usually starts with resume screens, then for the resumes that look good, we usually do a phone screen for 30 minutes to an hour, then if that goes well, we fly you up to Redmond for a day of technical interview. |
trevorfo_MSN | are those the main things you're interested in? |
DarLam | Microsoft doesn't work with Java, do it? |
trevorfo_MSN | Haven't seen a lot of Java inside Microsoft, no. My team does a lot of C# though. |
Peterpay | yes |
Peterpay | i like to spend time in research about Regex, image processing, and web mining and programming some problems in c# |
trevorfo_MSN | MSN search might be an interesting place to look then. |
Peterpay | and how many mexicans are in msn, just a number not exactly |
revtekniques | what do you mean by mexicans? |
Peterpay | mexican developers |
revtekniques | from the US or mexico? |
Peterpay | from mexico, |
revtekniques | to be honest.. i am not sure... |
revtekniques | but they will be in the room shortly....and you can check with them then... |
Peterpay | ok |
trevorfo_MSN | my great grandmother was from Mexico, and I am in MSN. :) |
revtekniques | but a majority of their developers work in mountain view, California |
revtekniques | and redmond, Washington |
revtekniques | trevor..do you work for msn? |
trevorfo_MSN | yes |
mike | trevorfo: we are looking into it |
revtekniques | who did you speak with from msn about this chat? |
agusles | hi there |
Peterpay | i dont know how many areas of research are there in msn |
agusles | who is from msn here? |
trevorfo_MSN | I'm from MSN. |
agusles | hi, trevorfo. Im from argentina, and im wondering if there are any available bost around here |
revtekniques | do you work in WA or CA? |
agusles | (not bost, posts) |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: Unfortunately, as I work in a fairly specific part of MSN (Windows OneCare), I don't know too much about all the research that takes place either. I'm sure there is a lot around search and communities. |
trevorfo_MSN | agusles: Sorry I don't understand. |
trevorfo_MSN | revtekniques: I work in WA, originally from CA though. |
revtekniques | nice... |
agusles | trevorfo: |
revtekniques | trevorfo: how did you hear about this? from kimberly? |
trevorfo_MSN | Hey guys, the admins just told me that I should log out and log back in with an MSN on my name, so I'll be right back. |
Peterpay | ok, but how are the skills in programming that you are looking for |
Peterpay | ok |
trevorfo_MSN | ok, now I'm official. |
Peterpay | ok |
revtekniques | trevorfo: nice |
trevorfo_MSN | now you don't have to take my word for it. |
agusles | trevorfo_MSN: r u hiring people from argentina? |
Peterpay | and how is the work enviroment? |
trevorfo_MSN | agusles: We hire great people from all around the world. You should see the place. |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: That's a pretty open-ended question. Anything in particular you're interested in? |
trevorfo_MSN | Overall, I'd say the work is fun, and very challenging. |
syisunny | So many people come in |
kmc127 | min GPA for msn? |
sidarok | Hi, I live inurkey. Do I st |
debugger123 | hai traver good night |
bodq | are there job openings in Ukraine? |
sidarok | ill have the chance to be hired by ms? |
agusles | trevorfo_MSN: what's the working environment like? |
trevorfo_MSN | kmc127: GPA is just one of many factors we might look at. No explicit minimum. |
debugger123 | is there any opportunities for java people |
kmc127 | thanks trevorfo |
nicka81 | are there any opportunities for Linux people? :) |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: Hi! |
revtekniques | trevorfo: how long have you been with msn now? |
debugger123 | ya i am here trevor |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: I think it adds to the environment. Always a lot of discussion with lots of points of view, which works great. |
Kimberly_MSN | Yaaay...finally I am in! |
zerok | revtekniques: what type of people are you looking for ? |
Peterpay | what school qualifications do you expect in applicants |
capoeirist | trevorfo_MSN: any machine learning opportunities at MSN? |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: Someone who's skills are in Java and are talented, definitely have a place in MSN. The chances of actually _working_ on Java, though, are slim to none. |
debugger123 | trevorf |
debugger123 | thanks trevorfo_MSN |
agusles | trevorfo_MSN: what is the average age of people at msn? |
trevorfo_MSN | revtekniques: I've been with Microsoft for over 5 years, Windows OneCare for 3 years, and Windows OneCare was moved to MSN in the past year or so. Hard to give a direct answer to that one. |
revtekniques | trevorfo: :) |
filomath | What's the age of the youngest guy/gal at MSN ? |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: any machine learning opportunities at MSN? |
revtekniques | trevorfo: have you interviewed any topcoder members recently? |
web_master | does MCAD people have more chance that others? |
Kimberly_MSN | hi! |
nicka81 | hello |
Kimberly_MSN | yes, actually there are! what is your background |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: hello |
revtekniques | Kimberly_MSN: morning kimberly |
Peterpay | hey Kimberly_MSN , any image processing and NLP opportunities?? |
kmc127 | what edu requirements are there? |
aware | What do I have to learn if I want to get a job in MSN |
Kimberly_MSN | Good morning ! |
Peterpay | good morning Kimberly_MSN |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: We look at a lot of things about a candidate, but a bachelor's degree is usually a requirement unless you've written some major project on your own or have a lot of experience shipping great software or something else that shows techical talent |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: i'm a grad student. background in clustering, svm, a bit of reinforcement learning |
Kimberly_MSN | Hello everyone!!!! |
michael_luo | hi |
kmc127 | could i have the app link again? |
Kimberly_MSN | yes...we could use that type of experience |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: text processing also |
trevorfo_MSN | Lots of age questions. The age range is pretty wide, from about 20 (interns) to 22 (college grads) to 45 or 50, and the executives seem much older. :) |
Kimberly_MSN | ca |
filomath | ;) |
Kimberly_MSN | ca |
filomath | So no teens there ?:) |
trevorfo_MSN | revtekniques: A coworker did and was pretty impressed by one of them recently. |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist...be sure to submit your resume |
revtekniques | trevorfo_MSN: nice |
trevorfo_MSN | revtekniques: I'm a little biased since I'm a TC member. |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: ok |
revtekniques | trevorfo_MSN: :) |
revtekniques | to apply to MSN, http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: what do you do at MSN? |
Kimberly_MSN | has anyone had login issues today...dang! took me a half hour to get in!!! |
forcey | everything works right here. |
kmc127 | got right in 5 mins ago |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: i am a Staffing Consultant |
agusles | trevorfo_MSN: how many people do you expect to hire from topcoder? |
Peterpay | sorry admin |
trevorfo_MSN | web_master: MCAD isn't a huge advantage in the product development groups. A bachelor's degree or equivalent is. |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: i work with the candidates interested in careers at MSN - now WindowsLIVE!!! |
forcey | Is MSN interested in part-time student? |
kmc127 | will you look at our topcoder scores? =) |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: having done outside projects of any kind is a plus in my opinion. |
revtekniques | kmc127: of course! |
Peterpay | ok |
kmc127 | hehehe |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: We DEFINITELY look at TC scores!!! |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: how can i find out more about the potential machine learning-related projects? |
jasw_MSN | kmc127: Yes, we'll look at TC scores & resumes in conjunction |
alberto | Hi, I have a major in computer science, and I am finishing a master in computer science with a project in Graph Theory. Is this kind of background desirable? For which place in MSN is it desirable? |
Peterpay | and how is msn with respect to training |
trevorfo_MSN | agusles: As many super talented ones as we can. |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: i haven't get full details of live can you please tell me what is it for? |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: what level of TC scores do you expect? |
lordhiru | trevorfo_MSN: Hi what kind of skills you expect most ? |
alberto | I also did some research in Crpytography during undergrad. |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: I have several hiring managers who are logged in so you can post that question. |
web_master | trevorfo_MSN: what r the countries u looking for emplooyes in? |
forcey | Excuse me, is MSN interested in part-time student? |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: We are interested in most of the TC candidates due to their passion for technology |
Peterpay | trevorfo_MSN: how many TC points do you expect |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: and their top coding capabilitites |
agusles | trevorfo_MSN: do you know Bill Gates? |
Peterpay | trevorfo_MSN: for an applicant |
jasw_MSN | forcey: Yes, MS has internship opportunities available for students |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: fair enough |
alberto | I also took place in two World Finals of ICPC |
trevorfo_MSN | web_master: From wherever in the world there are smart people (i.e., everywhere). |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: you should submit yourself! |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: what is main use of windlows live |
capoeirist | Kimberly_MSN: i will |
Kimberly_MSN | capoeirist: With WindowsLIVE, we are doing some amazing dev work right now |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: Your TC score is another data point, no set minimum, but the higher the better in general. |
Peterpay | trevorfo_MSN: ok, Kimberly_MSN what do you do in msn |
trevorfo_MSN | agusles: I don't know Bill personally, but I did shake his hand once, something like 7 years ago as an intern. |
agusles | trevorfo_MSN: hah, tx trevorfo_MSN |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: I am a Staffing Consultant with MSN...essentially MSN's recruiting |
lordhiru | trevorfo_MSN: Is there a good chance for .NET programmers? |
Kimberly_MSN | lordhiru: YES definitely!!! |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: how many opportunities are for .nEt programmers and image processing |
lordhiru | trevorfo_MSN: hay but got a problem |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: OMG!!!...I am soo busy right now hiring .NET folks....I have 1900 openings this year!!! |
trevorfo_MSN | lordhiru: For good ones, yes. But in fact, we look for raw smarts and technical skills more than specific technologies, since at MS things change rapidly. |
lordhiru | trevorfo_MSN: Im from Sri Lanka do you think ill have a chance |
hallan_cs | lbfacci: aew |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: we typically look for .Net, C#, C++ skills and a variety of other coding skills |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: do you think if i get a MCSD in C# could be an advantage |
ibbu | Kimberly_MSN: and how many did u guys fired |
debugger123 | Kimberly_MSN: what is the main use of windows live traver |
trevorfo_MSN | lordhiru: I don't see any reason why not, from being from Sri Lanka. |
alberto | trevorfo_MSN: Hi, I have a major in computer science, and I am finishing a master in computer science with a project in Graph Theory. I also did some research in Crpytography during undergrad..... |
alberto | trevorfo_MSN: And I also took part as contestant in two World Finals of ICPC. Most of my programming is in C/C++. And I am very good in theoretical Computing. Is this kind of background desirable? For which place in MSN is it desirable? |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: since we support the MCSD, it is not a requirement for employment, you can obtain that cert on the job |
lordhiru | trevorfo_MSN: Do you think is there a chance MS start a developing center in Sri lanka |
forcey | msn admins must be very busy now:( |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: we are in tremendous growth mode due to WindowsLIVE |
trevorfo_MSN | alberto: what kinds of stuff do you want to work on? If you're good, and interested in some of the stuff MSN is doing, it's desirable. |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: CAN YOU PLEASE ANSWER FOR MY QUESTION I AM WAITING SINCE 10 MINS |
trevorfo_MSN | lordhiru: that's something i don't know anything about, sorry. |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: and in c++ programming and c# what skills are you looking |
farookhm | debugger123: whats you question? |
prunthaban | lor |
revtekniques | forcey: why do you say that? |
kmc127 | will you be topcoding today? =) |
Kimberly_MSN | forcey: unfortunately, part time is probably not a big need at this time |
prunthaban | lordhiru: You are from which place in Srilanka? |
forcey | revtekniques: since nobody replied.. |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: sorry, there are a lot of questions going by. live is a set of services delivered on the web that are built to work well with one another. |
farookhm | we are looking for developers who are good in OO design and good in C++ or C# |
lordhiru | trevorfo_MSN: it ok, what do you think about the competition with google? |
felix_halim | forcey: perhaps you should point to one of the msn admins, so it will be highlighted like this |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: repeat your q please? |
BryanSt_MSFT | We are hiring for Windows Live. My project is Windows Live Messenger and other not yet released products. |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: and in c++ programming and c# what skills are you looking |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: I have gone through windows live site, But I didn't what is core part for their webpage |
forcey | thanx. must gone for a while. good luck to everyone in the contest. |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: what do you mean by core part? |
kinfkong | admins: Hi, I have one question: Does MSN need the people who knows only alogrithm, but nothing about other computers? |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: good dev and also testing - ability to break code |
lordhiru | prunthaban: Colombo |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: overall technical curiosity |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: ya, trevor I got your point thanks |
prunthaban | lordhiru: I am from Jaffna |
BryanSt_MSFT | We are looking for people who can solve hard problems and are great coders. We code mostly in C++. Some teams are doing more C# over time. |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: HELLO JAS MSN |
OlexiyO | kinfkong: I think you can ask MSN people about that |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: for your kind acknowledgement |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: HI BryanSt_MSFT |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: hello jasw_MSN |
along | debugger123: I guess it's AJAX, just try to learn from google :) |
trevorfo_MSN | My team does a lot of C# work. |
Peterpay | jasw_MSN: hi |
lordhiru | prunthaban: yo thats great nice to sri lankan here |
kinfkong | OlexiyO: Who is MSN people here? haha |
jasw_MSN | Hi everyone, I'm a Staffing Consultant for MSN |
Peterpay | BryanSt_MSFT: hi |
nufyoot | what is the likely hood of a C# .NET programmer being hired outside of Microsoft? |
BryanSt_MSFT | The funny thing about AJAX is that it was invented by Microsoft. Exchange has "OWA" (Outlook Web Access) which pioneered the AJAX type of technology. |
supernegro | ASP.Net ahas client call back L:) |
OlexiyO | kinfkong: go to MSN lobby |
OlexiyO | kinfkong: there are a lot of them |
BryanSt_MSFT | OWA may be the first and best AJAX client. |
prunthaban | lordhiru: I am seeing the |
trevorfo_MSN | nufyoot: I've worked with C# programmers from outside MS, but don't know the answer to that. |
alberto | trevorfo_MSN: I heard there is a very good research center in OS. I guess they could use someone with theoretical abilities. Besides that, I dont know what the other areas MS work are. |
prunthaban | lordhiru: For the first time I am seeing a Srilankan here! |
along | BryanSt_MSFT: Yes, OWA is great. In my last job they use that, I enjoyed it. |
Kimberly_MSN | Does anyone have any questions for MSN Recruiters? |
lordhiru | prunthaban: me too |
BryanSt_MSFT | Has anyone use our operating system under development? Windows Vista? |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: how many rounds of interview in Microsoft |
trevorfo_MSN | alberto: I'm guessing if you have an interest, someone at MS is in to it. I know there is OS research going on. |
lordhiru | prunthaban: but i guess this is your first event |
kclune | Kimberly_MSN: Is there a minimum TC score you are looking for? |
Peterpay | opportunities about image processing, web mining data mining and NLP |
Peterpay | ??? |
Peterpay | are there any? |
BryanSt_MSFT | The graphics layer improvements are nice. Graphics are now rendered to textures and pushed to the GPU. 3-D geometry can then be used by the Windows Manager. |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: Usually a phone screen and then a day of interviews, then a decision fairly quickly. |
prunthaban | lordhiru: ya... But I am an old member... I dont attend much... |
farookhm | I am with the services group in MSN/WindowsLive. We develop services like Messenger and MSN Spaces and are looking for strong C++ (or C#) developers |
along | BryanSt_MST: I've heard that MS is going to move graphics subsystem out of the kernel, right? |
aussie | Kimberly_MSN: do people transfer around between different departments at MS much? I.E. I'm very interested in a few different areas, would it be easy enough to start in one and possibly move to another after a few years or so? |
farookhm | And also database developers |
prunthaban | lordhiru: I participated in Google India Code Jam last year |
crawfjs | How quickly are you needing to fill your positions? |
farookhm | crawfjs:as soon as possible :) |
Kimberly_MSN | aussie: people transfer ALL the time...that's what is so great...longevity of career |
trevorfo_MSN | crawfjs: As quickly as we can find great people! |
cpphamza | hi MSN guys |
farookhm | hi cpphamza |
lordhiru | prunthaban: hay shall we move to another room and chat |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: Hi there!!! |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: WHAT IS FUTURE RELEASE OF MICROSOFT PRODUC |
BryanSt_MSFT | People can transfer around MS. I've personally worked on the following products over the last 10 years: IE v3,4,5, Win98/ME/2000/XP, MSN Explorer v8, and now Live. (plus buiding the spam filter) |
trevorfo_MSN | The OneCare team has lots of open slots and we're really gated on finding great people, which is hard. |
lordhiru | prunthaban: otherwise we ll be disturbing the others |
prunthaban | lordhiru: which one? The main room? |
Peterpay | jasw_MSN: what about research vacancies in NLP and Image processing? |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: sorry i don't understand. |
lordhiru | prunthaban: chat room 1 |
prunthaban | lordhiru: ok |
BryanSt_MSFT | We have a lot of need for image processing and web data mining. We do code NLP. |
cpphamza | can you tell me more about job opportunituies available in MSN |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: we are hiring over 1500 positions...mostly domestic due to GROWTH. |
Peterpay | BryanSt_MSFT: and what approachs in image processing do you look |
BryanSt_MSFT | We will be hiring quite a bit over the next two years. Live is under quick development right now. |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: what specifically do you want to know |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: WHAT IS MICROSOFT'S FUTURE RELEASE, I MEAN NEW PRODUCT |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: LIVE is our hottest product right now |
jasw_MSN | Peterpay: Yes, we do have research openings that would require NLP & image processing within MSFT |
BryanSt_MSFT | Our Windows Live announcements was a nice "peek" into the future. |
trevorfo_MSN | cpphamza: There are several of us here from different teams in MSN, doing all kinds of work. I'm on the Windows OneCare team, and we do a lot of stuff--C++, C#, SQL, ASP.NET, CryptoAPI. We need people with all kinds of skills. |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: R&D PRODUCT |
capoeirist | BryanSt_MSFT: what kind of techniques are you using for spam filtering? |
oldbam | Are there any scholarships for summer studies? |
cpphamza | i would like to know what job roles you are asking for, in which countries etc |
farookhm | We do image processing for things like facial recognition, object recognition, etc. |
BryanSt_MSFT | Anyone here can apply at the bottom of http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: well OneCare is one future product. :) www.windowsonecare.com |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: devs, SDET, program managers |
yadakishore | trevorfo_MSN: how do u select people |
cpphamza | by the way i just graduated this year and am working for IBM cairo lab |
BryanSt_MSFT | We can explain all about opportunities at Microsoft. |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: great!! |
Bi11 | Digital Image Process |
trevorfo_MSN | yadakishore: We look at a variety of factors: TC score, experience, outside projects, etc. There's no "formula" for finding smart people. |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: what do you do in the lab? how many topcoder matches have you participated in? |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: THANKS TREVOR |
Peterpay | image filtering, image enhacement and all image processing techniques |
BryanSt_MSFT | Programmings in my team in Windows Live code: databases, networking stack, crypto, UI, etc. |
trevorfo_MSN | yadakishore: school |
cbdcyb | Btw0: hi btw0 |
yadakishore | trevorfo_MSN: na.. working |
BryanSt_MSFT | There are internships during the summer. |
Kimberly_MSN | BryanSt_MSFT projects are extremely challenging |
jasw_MSN | cpphamza: Congrats on graduating! We're hiring recent grads & experience industry candidates |
BryanSt_MSFT | We are looking for US positions primarily. SDE, SDET, and PM. |
diecast | I posted my resume on Microsoft's site over a year ago and never heard anything. Do you look at them? |
yadakishore | trevorfo_MSN: whtz the recruitment process 4 experienced persons |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: WHAT IS NEXT VERSION OF MS-OS? |
zerok | BryanSt_MSFT: what type of people are you looking for ? |
john7331 | Are positions primarily located in renton? |
Kimberly_MSN | Does anyone have any general questions on what it's like to work at MSN? |
trevorfo_MSN | for the uninitiated, that means software engineers, software engineers who write test automation code, and "program managers" which are really more of a semi-project manager for a particular feature |
crawfjs | Kimberly_MSN: Is relocation a requirement |
slex | Kimberly_MSN: what is like to work at MSN in general? |
Kimberly_MSN | diecast: yes, we utilize our candidate database daily. |
ftomi | Kimberly_MSN: What it the average age of employees? |
cpphamza | sorry MSN guys i just had some networking problems |
jasw_MSN | john7331: Most positions are located at our headquarters in Redmond, WA (Seattle) |
kanishkkunal | sujitkumar: hi |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: how is the training opportunities for the people that works there |
farookhm | positions are primarily in redmond, WA, but also in silicon valley |
Kimberly_MSN | crawfjs: relo depends on what area. |
Bi11 | admin: What will happen while the time is reaching 12:00 |
BryanSt_MSFT | We are looking for smart and strong coders. We look for raw potential. |
Kimberly_MSN | ftomi: average age is approx. 35 |
trevorfo_MSN | yadakishore: generally the same as for anyone--we'll look at the resume, possibly do a phone screen, and then if that all works well, fly you in for interviews. |
farookhm | age isn't a factor when we hire smart people |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: Windows Vista |
Gaisan | Who can give me an advice : What Compiler & IDA should I use to hav no Problems? |
yadakishore | trevorfo_MSN: oh.. k |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: TREVOR, DOES MICROSOFT GOING TO RELEASE ANY NEW LANGUAGE LIKE VB,VC++ |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: my guess is yes |
TheFaxman | Bi11: you'll get a message asking if you want to move to your room |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: but don't know of anything on the horizon. |
farookhm | we released C# and VB.NET |
Kimberly_MSN | ftomi: correct, we hire all ages, but from a stat, average age is 35 |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: have you seen the LINQ stuff? awesome. |
crawfjs | Is there a general salary range that you are able to dislose? |
cpphamza | well how can i apply for one of the positions you do offer? |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: NO TREVOR, YOU MEAN TO STAY |
Kimberly_MSN | crawfjs: no, sorry; however, we are competitive |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: ? |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: TopCoder has links set up for application; and job descriptions; Please do apply! |
PeterLi | I thought 35 is a little bit old |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: I DIDN'T GET , WHAT IS LINQ STUFF |
aussie | trevorfo_MSN: yeah, can't wait for that. although some of the new languages features that are there to enable linq are more interesting to me than linq itself. |
jasw_MSN | crawfjs: the salary range depends upon the combination of your education & work experience |
BryanSt_MSFT | We pay very well, probably the best answer we can give. Experienced people that do well on the interview will match industry experience. |
cpphamza | you mean through topcoder website? |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: try search.msn.com, 3rd hit for me |
ftomi | Kimberly_MSN: How much do you pay for a fresh graduated with master degree? |
cpphamza | do you have the link? |
Kimberly_MSN | cpphamza: yes |
revtekniques | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn to apply |
farookhm | LINQ stands for Language Integrated Query and it allows you to do database queries (for instance) from C# directly |
Kimberly_MSN | ftomi: i cannot make an assement at this time |
farookhm | you can search for LINQ on MSN Search to get more info. Or search on MSDN |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: OK, FOLKS, THANKS FOR YOUR KIND INFOR |
trevorfo_MSN | Hope all the smart people go to that link and apply. |
jasw_MSN | Please apply for MSN job opportunities at the following: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
Peterpay | trevorfo_MSN: thanks for your time |
Kimberly_MSN | We have a ton of perks in addition to a stimulating environment. |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: thanks for your time and info |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: A pleasure! |
diecast | Stock options? |
yourmama | Hello |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: you are welcome! i hope you look at some of our open positions! |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: I HEARD THAT MICROSOFT AND SUN HAD SOME TIEUPS IS IT TRUE? |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: where i can see your vacancies |
farookhm | We offer stock awards |
jasw_MSN | diecast: We no longer have stock option, but we offer shares of stock that vest over 5 years |
yourmama | I am looking for internship at MSN . Is that possible ? |
farookhm | yes, we do offer internships |
trevorfo_MSN | debugger123: don't know |
yourmama | from australia |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: please go to the TopCoder MSN site...there you can find out how to apply |
Ryan | Is MSN a subset of Microsoft? |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: ry |
trevorfo_MSN | Ryan: yes, MSN is a division. |
farookhm | yes, MSN is a group within Microsoft |
trevorfo_MSN | Ryan: more of a subtree |
Kimberly_MSN | ryan, we are a division of Microsoft |
BryanSt_MSFT | Here is why I enjoy working at Microsoft. You make friends across the company and chat with your friends about products across the industry. (Live, IE, Spaces, Messenger, SQL, low level OS, XBox, DirectX, CryptoAPIs, Research, etc.) |
BryanSt_MSFT | Often ideas you give your friends gets into products. You can ship a product and switch to a new team if you want. |
jasw_MSN | We have tons of career growth opportunities & challenges within MSN so please apply through the TC website |
BryanSt_MSFT | We are hiring for MSN and Windows Live. In Windows Live you can write code that ships in the Windows OS and can ship in the Live product downloads. |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: IN WHICH YOU ARE WORKING NOw? |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: w |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: W |
debugger123 | trevorfo_MSN: if you don't mind |
mike | for those interested - the URL to apply for MSN employment is here: |
mike | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
trevorfo_MSN | I work on Windows OneCare. www.windowsonecare.com. There's also people from MSN and Windows Live www.live.com or ideas.live.com |
farookhm | And also people from messenger.msn.com and spaces.msn.com |
BryanSt_MSFT | I work on a product that isn't yet announced. My peer team is Windows Live Messenger (previously MSN Messenger). |
trevorfo_MSN | farookhm: was hoping the live pages point to those. if not we ought to fix that. |
trevorfo_MSN | :) |
yourmama | what are selections criterias for intern positions ? |
farookhm | agree trevor |
aradil | what is msn live? |
yourmama | my dream to work at msn |
BryanSt_MSFT | If you want an idea of what it is like to design products for Microsoft, please watch this video about developments in this one area: http://msdn.microsoft.com/directx/archives/pdc2005/ |
yourmama | iam doing 3rd software eng |
BryanSt_MSFT | It will show you a team improving on part of Windows. |
farookhm | for interns, we look for smart people with lots of curiousity to learn |
trevorfo_MSN | yourmama: really smart, really passionate about technology |
Peterpay | trevorfo_MSN: me again, are there interns opportunities for overseas |
BryanSt_MSFT | Selection criteria for all candiates is during the inteview at Microsoft campus. |
psangeljg | are intern positions avilable for foreign students ? and if yes, where can i learn more about applying for an intern position ? |
aradil | trevorfo_MSN: What is this Live I keep hearing you guys talk about? |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: that's probably a question for Kim |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: are ther inter positions for overseas |
trevorfo_MSN | Peterpay: Windows OneCare does some development at our India Development Center for Microsoft. |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: typically not...it is usually located in Redmond |
Gaisan | Is it true, that there are some 12-14 years old boys, who work in Microsoft? |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: ok well thanks and see you |
farookhm | Windows Live is a set of online services - you can see www.live.com, ideas.live.com |
jasw_MSN | MSN is a global division of MSFT so we do have international job openings |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: where are you located? |
trevorfo_MSN | aradil: it's a set of web services that will work well together. check out what we have so far at www.live.com and ideas.live.com |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: mexico |
diecast | Do you pay expenses if we have to go to Redmond for interview? |
BryanSt_MSFT | I have a few posts on http://spaces.msn.com/members/BryanStarbuck. Live is about giving users free powerful software. Client software that talks to servers that unify the clients. Also web front ends. |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: oh great...we may do a recruiting trip there this year |
farookhm | we fly you to redmond, all expenses paid |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: really |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: we've discussed it |
aussie | farookhm: is www.live.com meant to have more than just a search box yet? because that's all I've ever seen when I've gone there. |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: where i can found info about it |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: nothing planned yet but we've talked about it |
Peterpay | Kimberly_MSN: thats great, i'll be waiting |
BryanSt_MSFT | www.live.com is similar to my.yahoo.com. A good starting page. |
farookhm | on www.live.com you can personalize it to include the rss feeds you care about, the news feeds you care about, etc. |
debugger123 | DEAR MSN FOLKS THANKS FOR YOUR TIME! |
BryanSt_MSFT | ideas.live.com is the list of all Live products currently announced. (Much more coming) |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: watch the news...we're going to canada in Feb...probably target Mexico in june/july |
jasw_MSN | Thanks & good luck in your SRMs today! |
trevorfo_MSN | One thing I'd keep in mind if I were you guys. When I was graduating college 7 years ago, I never thought I'd want to live in the Seattle area. But hey, free plane trip, and it was pretty nice. I've now lived here for quite a few years. |
Kimberly_MSN | debugger123: bye! :) |
Excilus | Is it possible that MSN will at some point bundle with it a distributed computing scientific project? |
Peterpay | ok thanks Kimberly_MSN and all msn guys!!! |
Peterpay | see you soon |
trevorfo_MSN | Apply and see what happens. Could change your life. |
Kimberly_MSN | Good luck everyone!!! |
Peterpay | goodluck for everyone in SRM |
Kimberly_MSN | Peterpay: bye...good luck!!! |
BryanSt_MSFT | Good luck everyone! Have fun!! |
trevorfo_MSN | gl all |
Kimberly_MSN | thanks everyone!!! |
abhicool | bye MSN buddies |
crawfjs | Kimberly_MSN: Thanks again for your time and the info |
farookhm | bye abhicool |
trevorfo_MSN | bye abh |
Kimberly_MSN | crawfjs: my pleasure! good luck today!!! :) |
athenachu71 | how long does it take to process an application form? |
jasw_MSN | Thanks to all of the MSN managers online today! |
crawfjs | Kimberly_MSN: Thank you. |
trevorfo_MSN | athenachu71: we've been turning around the TopCoder ones pretty fast. Within several weeks at most I'd guess. |
athenachu71 | I sent one a month a go but received no replies |
jasw_MSN | athenachu71: if you apply through Top Coder, we'll contact you within 2 weeks if you match our requirements |
Kimberly_MSN | trevorfo_MSN: we're changing that to target responding WEEKLY |
Kimberly_MSN | trevorfo_MSN: to increase our turn around |
athenachu71 | jasw_MSN: I apply through recommendation of staff |
Kimberly_MSN | athenachu71: yes...submit through the topcoder site |
DevMaster | what if I was interviewed before for other Microsoft teams? |
farookhm | DevMaster: you can still apply |
Kimberly_MSN | trevorfo_MSN: gotcha |
jasw_MSN | DevMaster: you can still apply for MSN |
ZorroCode | kim |
Kimberly_MSN | ZorroCode: yessss? |
revtekniques | To APPLY - http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
plum | are there any internship opportunities ? |
ZorroCode | kimberly_MSN: I wasnt to know wht is the minimum duration i can AGAIN n apply for microsoft |
revtekniques | if there are any other questions... please feel free to email me at jquach@topcoder.com |
ZorroCode | kimberly_MSN: i have given the interview before want to apply again |
mhmdbakr | plz help me i register in math 277 and i don't know how to start |
farookhm | yes, there are internship opportunities available |
farookhm | i think registration for match 277 is closed |
Kimberly_MSN | treveor: aaah this is moving to fast! |
mhmdbakr | i registered |
plum | hi farookhm |
asadfiroze | Are there openings in Toronto Canada |
farookhm | hi plum |
stempel | gl |
plum | could you tell me where I could look for the information ? |
mhmdbakr | and my handle in Rigisterant |
revtekniques | plum: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=contracting&d2=msn |
plum | is MSN intern and MS intern the same ? |
farookhm | you can use the link that rev just sent |
jasw_MSN | plum: YES |
farookhm | yes plum, MSN is a division of MS |
jasw_MSN | plum: yes |
jerschneid | mhmdbakr: Soon you will be able to use the Active Contests/Enter menu, i believe. |
trevorfo_MSN | MSN intern is a type of MS intern |
revtekniques | mhmdbakr: you will get a message to move to the proper room |
tuanpm | gl all |
revtekniques | mhmdbakr: shortly |
ZorroCode | trevorfo_MSN: I had given interview at MS before ..want to know when i can again apply ?? |
mhmdbakr | ? |
notadrummer | i think you wait for "Enter" to appear in the contest dropdown menu |
Relish | T-1 min |
plum | thank revtekniques |
nessus.you | is java desirable by MSFT? |
revtekniques | plum: np |
plum | so if i have applied for intern at MS website |
farookhm | zorro: yes you can apply |
trevorfo_MSN | zorrocode: depends on your specific situation. no harm in applying again. |
revtekniques | trevorfo_MSN: hey trevor |
trevorfo_MSN | hey! |
farookhm | nessus.you:we hire smart people, we don't do much work in java, but if you are good at java, chances are you are good at C++ too. |