Chat transcript from SRM 359
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ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Joe: and how you people are deadling with Visa Issues? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Joe: for US Office |
BT_Joe | re Visas and HR ask Adele and Lee |
BT_Joe | they are from BT HR |
abhicool | BT_Joe: hi there |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Joe: ok |
BT_Joe | hello |
NikhilVerma | Hi BT_* :) |
BT_Adele | Hi there- Visa wise we are not sponsoring people but if you obtain your own you are welcome to work in a different country |
Steeled | how much do you pay? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: So if I'm an Indian, and I apply to BT, is there a chance I'll be posted in Denver or London? |
BT_Joe | Competitve rates |
omsiddh | BT_Adele:i want to apply for internship ....please guide me? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Adele: even for China? |
BT_Joe | Look, if you want to join a Telco who is looking to go head to head with Google then this is the place for you |
Steeled | HOW MUCH DO YOU PAY?!? |
BT_Adele | Yeah you can work in china if you can get your own visa there |
BT_Joe | Competitive rates |
BT_Joe | if you make it through the screening and interviews you will find out |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Adele: means there is no re-location package from BT? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: What do u mean by competitive rates? |
BT_Paul | anybody looked at the BT SDK? |
BT_Joe | not going to discuss details of the package here |
omsiddh | BT_Joe: i want to apply for internship ....please guide me? |
BT_Lee | There can be relocation packages available if you have a right to work in that locations and the skills are required there. |
BT_Joe | BT offers great salary and excellent benefits |
BT_Joe | Telcos have a history of this |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: yes |
ral | Steeled: STOP! |
zhaofu(do_ob) | BT_Joe: beside the salary, does your comp. have a similar working enviorment as google ? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: i like the video that was put on Channel9 |
omsiddh | BT_Paul: i want to apply for internship ....please guide me? |
BT_Paul | that was great |
BT_Adele | Interships aren't common but can be possible in the right circumstances |
BT_Paul | Robbie and Nigel are good guys |
ral | Steeled: Ei tibia boy, vc tá mto folgado |
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ion_h | what IDE platform is mainly used at BT? |
BT_Joe | We have some small groups that may be google like, but we are not google |
BT_Paul | only been at BT for 2 years and already got their faces on Channel 9 |
BT_Joe | Yep |
skaterboy | do u hire from India |
Minny | Hello BT guys, has anyone asked you guys about internship position in Europe? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Who are your clients? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: it is really great |
BT_Joe | We hire in India |
BT_Dustin | mainly eclipse and visual studio, but some have even used VI + scripts, etc |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: it is great to see applications getting out from the SDK |
BT_Adele | Interships aren't common but can be possible and would be primarily in london |
BT_Dustin | IDEA is somewhat popular too, but typically you have to buy it yourself |
BT_Joe | We have consumer, SMB and Enterprise clients in 170 countries |
omsiddh | BT_Joe: interships at BT in india????guide me??? |
ilyanep | So what sort of things do you guys do in the US [if any]? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: clients such as....? |
tgu | where is BT located? |
jmpld40 | to apply for BT, go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
BT_Joe | Credit Suisse |
BT_Joe | Reuters |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Microsoft? |
BT_Adele | Generally we don't offer interships in india |
abhicool | BT_Adele: I will be graduating my engg degree in 2008... what opportunities do I have at BT ? |
BT_Joe | 1.7 million SMBs in the UK |
rahullak | BT_Joe: cool |
BT_Joe | 27 million consumers in UK |
rahullak | BT_Joe: wow |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: Paul, what skills you are looking for? |
BT_Joe | We are one of the biggest Telcos in the world |
dhjnavy | do you have any branch in china? |
BT_Joe | yes |
BT_Lee | Dalian |
BT_Joe | China - Dailan |
BT_Andrew | ilya |
BT_Joe | we are hiring there now |
rahullak | BT_Joe: exactly - what skills are u looking for? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: good software craftsmanship skills |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: good desgn |
BT_Adele | As a graduate we have several options both on the grad scheme but also directly into technical roles |
rahullak | BT_Joe: how do u judge these for a new graduate? |
dhjnavy | which cities? |
harvey6ft | Greetings! |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: a passion for your craft |
BT_Joe | rahullak: it depends |
BT_Andrew | ilyanep: in the US (Denver in particular) we're primarily a group of software engineers. Not particularly sure elsewhere in the States |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: an ability to work with a team |
BT_Joe | rahullak: generally OOP skills |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: yes |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we do .NET and J2EE |
omsiddh | BT_Joe: but i can pursue internship in US if i get a visa |
BT_Joe | rahullak: among other things |
rahullak | BT_Joe: tested by taking written test? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: in short smart people who like to code |
BT_Joe | rahullak: specifics are less important than ability to learn and work quickly and efficiently |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: i have C# Experience |
BT_Joe | rahullak: intellectual curiosity |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: great |
rahullak | BT_Joe: yes....but how do u judge that? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: You are getting tested through TopCoder |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: have you worked in any other languages |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ...any other way besides TopCoder? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: Interview will involve the "Gauntlet" |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: yes |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: even better |
BT_Joe | rahullak: you will spend a day with our development teams |
BT_Joe | rahullak: pair programming |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: i have worked on C/C++ and little bit Java |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ahh |
rahullak | BT_Joe: My kinda thing |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: shiffted to C# during my Studay |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we will see in real time your capabilities and if you are a right fit for the team |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: *Study |
rahullak | BT_Joe: sounds alright to me |
ilyanep | BT_Andrew: I'm currently a high school student, and will be graduating 2009. Are there any sort of internship/educational opportunities at Denver for me? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: and did certifications in that |
BT_Dustin | we're looking for _sharp_ technical people/skills....not a single particular technology....C#/Java/etc...all are good, but we want TECH skills before a certain technology... |
raashi | Hi- Whats the average development time spent by a programmer at BT |
BT_Joe | ilyanep: participate in TC High School |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: i am giving .Net Trainings in my Region under INETA and Culminis Platform |
BT_Paul | raashi: what does that mean |
rahullak | BT_Joe: still, I'd like to know - what's your Mission Statement. What is your Vision Statement? |
dhjnavy | i have some SIP related skills |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: Hey! How are doing? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: have you ever worked with any Agile Methodologies? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: Our vision is to be dedicated to helping customers thrive in a changing world and our mission is to be the leader in delivering converged networked software services. |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: yes |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: Are there any jobs for BLUE TCs? :) |
BT_Joe | dhjnavy: SIP background is good |
raashi | BT_Paul: i mean how much percentage of montly time is spent in designing and coding for a typical programming position? |
BT_Joe | dhjnavy: but SDK abstracts SIP so that developers do not need to know |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: but i am still in the beginning |
rahullak | BT_Joe: do u have an AI group? |
adr_insc | BT_Paul: In BT the development is done in an agile spirit? |
dhjnavy | yes, i am working on the jsr116 and jsr289 |
BT_Paul | raashi: 90% |
BT_Andrew | ilyanep: We don't really have any internships. Those sound like they're not as common and usually only in London. |
BT_Joe | rahullak: yes |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: you are totally product based? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: in the CTO group |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: play with it |
rahullak | BT_Joe: CTO? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: Try TDD |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: or you develop applications for client under your SDK |
BT_Joe | rahullak: Chief Technology Office |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: do both |
rahullak | BT_Joe: which is where? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we have 100K employees |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: you mean Test Driven Development |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: we have a group that does client engagments around the SDK and the core Engineering team that works on the SDK |
BT_Joe | rahullak: and a group looking at probably every type of technology you can imagine |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: i have a experience of it on TopCoder by winning 3 Testing Competitions |
BT_Joe | rahullak: CTO group is primarily based in the UK |
rahullak | BT_Joe: what work does your AI work do? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: not sure |
BT_Andrew | Nikaustr: There's jobs for all types of elite software craftsmen |
BT_Joe | rahullak: if you make it through the screening process we can redirect you to the right group |
rahullak | BT_Joe: So if I want to work in the AI group, but am in India, will I get to work in the UK |
BT_Joe | rahullak: Probably not |
BT_Joe | rahullak: you can work remotely |
rahullak | BT_Joe: :( tough lucj |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: great. But it is important that all developers are great testers. |
rahullak | BT_Joe: oh? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: great |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Work remotely? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: yes |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Join the Indian offices though? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we are a distributed company |
BT_Joe | rahullak: yes |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: means you don;t have seperate positions like SDE and SDET like Microsoft have |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: Cool! I'm a PhD student in the UK (originally from Ukraine). I'm 21. And I would like to do something interesting and something that could get me some money :). What would you suggest, please? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: hmm |
BT_Joe | rahullak: BT is pretty flexible for the right people |
rahullak | BT_Joe: The screening process is? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: No |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: we don't |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: some groups do |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: fine |
adr_insc | BT_An |
BT_Joe | rahullak: First step is to opt in our posting so we get your TC details and a CV if you have one with TC |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: but in my group everyone does everything |
BT_Joe | rahullak: likewise we will get recommendations from TC |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: design, test, code, refactor |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: do you look for innovative ideas from the Developers? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: always |
BT_Joe | rahullak: From there we will screen candidates based on various criteria |
BT_Joe | rahullak: probably followed by a phone interview |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: you know about Pixsense? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: you have to be able to articulate your ideas |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ah...so I'll have to at least 3 rd place in this SRM? |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: innovation is huge and must....we dont want just code goats... :) |
BT_Joe | rahullak: you would get noticed |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: that is great |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: no I don't |
BT_Joe | rahullak: But I see you are gray rated... |
BT_Andrew | Nikaustr: First step seems to be to opt in our posting so we get all yoru details and a CV/Resume if you have one... |
rahullak | BT_Joe: :) Means getting a shot is more difficult huh? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: mostly what i see is that a company impose things on you |
BT_Joe | rahullak: Depends on how many people opt in |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: always |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: especially large ones |
BT_Joe | rahullak: if we get 400 opt ins |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: yeah |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we can not look at every one |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: its all about being able to articulate your thoughts |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: yeah |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we will try to look at top 10% or so |
BT_Joe | rahullak: based on rating, SRM performance and other factors, as advised by TC |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: how you treat Technology upgrades? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: like moving from Windows Mobile old edition to new ones? |
BT_Joe | SO WHY DO YOU GUYS DO TC? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Opting-in is done during Registration for the SRM right? |
BT_Joe | WHAT MOTIVATES YOU? |
harvey6ft | rahullak: right |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: carefully |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: ok |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Do u have real-time data on how many have opted-in so far? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: no |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: Challenges |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: do you have internal trainings for developers? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Challenges |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: any upgrade requires thought and testing to minimize impact on the user |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we get a online mgmt syst |
BT_Joe | admins: when do people opt in |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ..and a sense of the bigger picture |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: yeah, but we also strongly push open source and new technology when there is a good fit |
BT_Joe | admins: before SRM and after? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: great |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: you are looking for a CS Degree or a Telecom Degree? |
TheFaxman | BT_Joe: before, as part of registration for the round |
garelli | BT_Lee: Is there any oportunity of work for people from latin america? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: So FaxMan has the opt-in data |
BT_Lee | If you can obtain a Visa to work in one of our four locations then yes. |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: yes on the Degree perfer CS, but the rest depends on the person |
jmpld40 | you can also opt in to job opportunities with BT here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: fine |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: what kind is impact is of Microsoft on BT? |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: Is experience somthing deseired for you or not? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: is it Research Oriented? |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: talent above all else |
rahullak | BT_Joe: waitaminute - is the company in India called Mahindra British Telecom? |
jmpld40 | control V |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: BT and Microsoft have several strategic partnerships |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: unlike other professions, tenure is less important |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: but experience helps |
BT_Joe | rahullak: used to be |
BT_Joe | rahullak: now just TM |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: it is a wide ranging partnership on several levels |
rahullak | BT_Joe: TM? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we used be a JV partner with them |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ok |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we still do some offshore work with them |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: i mean on Development Side |
BT_Joe | rahullak: Tech Mahindra |
gsbhatia | BT_Joe: But isn't MBT still in existance? |
BT_Joe | rahullak: yes |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: something like, BT Suggest new features and improvements for Windows Mobile |
BT_Joe | rahullak: called Tech mahindra |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: OK |
harvey6ft | What sort of problems to programers deal with on an everyday basis at BT? |
abhicool | BT_Lee: BT uses which development platform and what do CS people have work to do exactly in Telecom industry (specially what do you expect from TopCoders) ?? |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: But are there any options for PhD students who wish to continue their studies? |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: like a part-time job ... |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: or ... |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: Are theese positions opened also for foreigners? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Tech Mahindra has offices in Chennai? |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: anything that can be done at home |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: like solving problems |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: algorithms |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: etc |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: maybe, writing website updates etc |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: I don't deal with Windows Mobile myself, but yes, we do sometimes go to Redmond for consulting |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: fine |
BT_Lee | abhicool: I think it is best to ask one of the Technical Team |
BT_Andrew | Nikaustr: Hmm...Good question, maybe one for the HR people as they're more familiar w/ the range of positions. |
BT_Joe | WWW.SDK.BT.COM |
abhicool | BT_Lee: who exactly is from technical team :) ? |
BT_Joe | EVERYBODY CHECK IT OUT |
BT_Paul | Hi Lee |
BT_Joe | abhicool: ask Andrew |
rahullak | BT_Joe: so does TM have offices in Chennai, India? |
BT_Andrew | abhicool: HI there... i'm from the technical team |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: OK, thank you very much! |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: thanks for all your answers, i should move to Dustin for asking about his role as SE |
BT_Joe | rahullak: go to their website |
BT_Joe | rahullak: they are an offshore partner now |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Paul: where should i send my resume? email? |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: no worries |
BT_Dustin | BT_Joe: technical team -- Dustin, Andrew, and Paul |
BT_Joe | rahullak: we are hiring for a BT captive site |
harvey6ft | http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
BT_Paul | ali_raza_shaikh: ask BT_Lee |
BT_Joe | rahullak: i.e. BT employees in India in Bangalore |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: Hello |
BT_Andrew | abhicool: We have all sorts of development platforms, though we primarily work in Java and .NET |
BT_Adele | We can offer placement year or fixed term work but part time while studying is unlikely |
harvey6ft | ali_raza_shaikh: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
BT_Andrew | Nikaustr: BT_Lee and BT_Adele are our HR reps here today |
ali_raza_shaikh | harvey6ft: thanks |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ok now I get it |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: Will the applications done directly from the site be taken into consideration? |
dinoj18 | any one knows the profile abt BT |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: you are working as a SE? |
BT_Lee | ali_raza_shaikh: Please attach you resume to your TC profile and we will receive it when the SRM is over |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: you mean from TC? |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: yes |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: yes |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: hi,i want to know if u have any development centre in India as well |
harvey6ft | adr_insc: yes |
Nikaustr | BT_Andrew: thank you! |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: yes - the problems solved - there are no applications |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: Hi. Supposing I did not know a whole lot of SDKs like MFC, .NET library etc. but am willing to learn. Do I have a chance? (and am a new graduate) |
dinoj18 | is thr any research center in India |
dinoj18 | ] |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: so tell us about your role |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: Hey, how're you doing? |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: Yeah we have a development centre in Bangolore |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: like what challenges you face etc etc |
BT_Lee | dinoj18: We have a development centre in Bangalore |
BT_Andrew | rahullak: Absoltutely, a passion to learn and the ability to pick new things up is a must for any successful engineer |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: r u a .Net Guy? |
BT_Adele | Nikaustr: Very well cheers, how can i help? |
Insight | Hi Guys. Where in London are you located? Is it far from the metro or affordable residential areas? |
dinoj18 | coimbatore |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: from the tc site u can sent your resume . this is what i meant |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: i'm more of a senior technical developer....don't do any day-to-day management.... mostly coding, working on sotries and tasks with a small team here in Denver |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: Are there any options for PhD students who wish to continue their studies? |
BT_Joe | Insight: Central london |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: maybe some part-time jobs ... |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: or |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: ok |
BT_Andrew | rahullak: it's not about a particular technology or sdk because in this industry they change very rapidly |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: yes - opt in via TC |
BT_Lee | Insight: We are located in central London, next to major transport routes. |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: I'm 21. Doing my PhD in computational chemistry in the UK |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: So how exactly (apart from TopCoder) do you hire people? How do u test potential employees? Algorithms? Problem solving skills? |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: (originally from Ukraine) |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: you work on .Net? |
BT_Adele | Nikaustr: We don't really have part time jobs for people. We do offer placements so people can come work for 6months, 1yr etc. |
Insight | What kind of employee benefits are there? |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: in denver, our project deals a lot with security (WS-Security, certs, etc) (we did a lot of the foundation security work for the SDKs at sdk.bt.com.... |
Insight | (a specific helath insurance?) |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: great |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: aah, are there any projects connected to database management, neural networks etc? |
dinoj18 | can u tel me more abt the company??? |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: so are you hiring for your bangalore centre as well, how can i apply in that case |
BT_Andrew | rahullak: Other than through TC, we do a series of interviews as well as some pair programming sessions to see if you're a good fit. |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: MOSTLY for me has been Java, but we did a lot of .NET/WSE3.0 last year (and SOME now) |
BT_Adele | Nikaustr: obviously if you are great in your placement then when you complete studies we could look at perm role |
BT_Lee | Insight: it varies dependant on Location and role level but they are very competitive and flexible |
BT_Joe | dinoj18: go to www.btplc.com |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: OK, thanks! |
BT_Adele | Nikaustr: Not sure about the projects ,best to check with the technical team |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: do you maintain any blog? |
Nikaustr | BT_Adele: who is in the technical team? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: or any other Team Member |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: Isn't it necessary for potential employees to know the range of benefits they would be getting? |
BT_Joe | Nikaustr: paul, andrew, dustin |
Nikaustr | BT_Joe: thanks!! |
BT_Lee | Nikaustr: any of the other BT people except myself and Adele |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: i should be MUCH better....i have one for myself, but it is more of a place i put my own techie tips in case i need them again... |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: And what sort of work does the AI group at CTO do? |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: If you opt in on TC then that is the best place to start |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: for foreigners will BT asure a place to stay? |
Nikaustr | BT_Lee: thanks! |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: yes, several of our team members do -- let me find some for ya |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: you have to find your own accomodation |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: so you will get the resumes from TC site? |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: we may relocate though |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: that would be great |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: Yeah ideally |
BT_Andrew | rahullak: Not too familiar w/ the AI group in CTO. I think as far as finding out the range of benefits we'd be getting from potential employees, we've been quite successful esp in the programming sessions |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: we do not do visas currently, but there are exceptions |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: in that case, i haven't uploaded mine |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: ask Lee and Adele |
BT_Paul | You need to ask Adel or Lee, but there is some link off the TC Site |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: so would it be ok if i do that after this SRM |
BT_Paul | Apply there, phone screen, face-2-face, gauntlet, comittee, and then an offer |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: what challenges you face w.r.t to so many devices coming out these days |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: well if you can still, great. Otherwise afterwards, is cool too |
harvey6ft | nirmal_mehta: yeah, you can opt in at any time at: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: so probably more discussions will take place after the contest if BT is interested in someone right? |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: yes |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: thanks for the information |
abhicool | BT_Andrew: thats great |
BT_Joe | adr_insc: you need to opt in so we get your details |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: you should have to develop a version for each platform |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: no worries |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: But do you take the TC performance into account also? Supposing I were to apply directly to BT...would you or would you not consider the TC performance? |
adr_insc | BT_Joe: Yes. Thank you! |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: thanks for the link |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Thanks for all that info :) |
BT_Joe | rahullak: no problem |
BT_Joe | rahullak: good luck with the SRM |
PuPulli | BT_Joe: Do you have any office in India? |
BT_Andrew | rahullak: We'd take it all into consideration. It's really the whole picture we're looking for. Lack of a TC performance wouldn't necessarily be a barrier. But obviously a good TC performance does help |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: we have a blog page for our team at http://sdk.bt.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/71/Default.aspx.... here's one of our gurus who blogs some: http://www.whatfettle.com (Paul Downey).... |
BT_Joe | PuPulli: yes - bangalore |
rahullak | BT_Joe: Thanks... I'm gonna need it... considering I'm in the grey :) |
Insight | I'm not entirely sure I understand the company strategy |
PuPulli | BT_Joe: are you planning to hire people there? |
PuPulli | BT_Joe: how do I apply to the bangalore office? |
BT_Joe | PuPulli: Yes - read our posting |
Insight | Is BT developing and prodiving web 2.0 content and technology themselves? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: great |
Insight | or, in some way building a backbone to support it? |
BT_Joe | Insight: yes |
BT_Joe | Insight: www.sdk.bt.com |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: we don't do a lot of device-specific development on our team...mainly, we develop the SDKs that others can use to develop their apps with (mashups, etc) |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: ok |
BT_Lee | PuPulli: Opt in to the SRM and we will look at you details and location. |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: Thank goodness for that |
rahullak | BT_Andrew: As you can see...my TC rating needs a lot to be desired...so |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: SDK idea is great |
PuPulli | BT_Lee: are u asking me to register for this SRM? |
BT_Andrew | BT_Adele: and BT_Lee are our HR reps, they're more familiar w/ the types of internships avaialble...sounds mostly in London though |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: Third Party Developer create many innovative samples using these SDKs |
BT_Lee | PuPulli: If you would like to be considered for job opportunities then yes pleae opt in. |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: i watched this SDK first working on Channel9 |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: yeah, we have had a BLAST doing it....and going to TechEd and Java One and other confs to promote it |
harvey6ft | PuPulli: you don't have to compete in this SRM in order to opt in at: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
PuPulli | harvey6ft: thanks |
Uranium-235 | Hello |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: have you had a chance to play with it yet? would you download the .net or java (or python one? -- we even have a ruby and perl, too as we had developers who had a lot of interest in those languages) |
Insight | Wow, okay, so the SDK, this brings unique features to the devices or unique features period? |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: hello |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: good handle |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: i mainly work on .Net |
Uranium-235 | Actually, I thought of asking TC to change it for a specific reason :( |
Insight | BT_Joe: You had better only hire a few of him. And no neutron moderators... |
PuPulli | BT_Lee: what specific skills are you looking for? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: i am looking at the SDK these days |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: for the Mesh Up Competition |
BT_Joe | Insight: What are you talking abt? |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: hi again, i have uploaded my resume and have applied for the job |
Uranium-235 | BT_Joe: Sorry if this has already been asked, but, are these jobs located in the UK? |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: yes |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: awesome -- i'd like to see what you come up with |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: London |
Insight | BT_Joe: It's a silly jest at the criticality of too much uranium 235, one I'd like to take back... |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: excellent, very efficient of you! |
rahullak | Insight: "Don't enumerate your data before they hash" |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: when should i expect hearing from you, in case i am selected |
Uranium-235 | Does that mean you would be more likely to hire UK folks first? |
BT_Andrew | rahullak: Yeah sharp, innovative, and gets things done. That's what makes the best engineers. However, those are hard to define and measure sometimes so we use a multitude of inputs really. |
BT_Joe | Insight: esp. re the polonium 210 event recently |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: sure |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: within the next month |
harvey6ft | Uranium-235: UK, US, China, India |
BT_Joe | Insight: no problem |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: thanks for all your response |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: overall the positions are good at BT |
nirmal_mehta | BT_Adele: ok,thanks a lot |
AI-man | I would like to know about BT's india centre |
BT_Adele | nirmal_mehta: no worries, good luck! |
BT_Lee | PuPulli: On eof the Technical Team will answer that. |
Insight | Does BT hire Canadians who would need to acquire visas? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: but the only concern is of Re-location |
BT_Joe | Insight: possibly |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: Pakistan |
rahullak | Insight: "Don't enumerate your data before they hash" |
aydarov | BT_Joe: Have you seen film 'Meet Joe Black'? |
BT_Joe | Insight: We generally are looking for people to sponsor their own Visas |
BT_Adele | Insight: Yeah we would hire people who have visas but we are not sponsoring people so its up to the individual to obtain their own clearance |
BT_Joe | aydarov: I see we have a comedian here |
BT_Joe | aydarov: yes - I have |
rahullak | comedian? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: yes, i have |
Insight | Okay, one more quick question -- is there a company position, official or unofficial, on 'net neutrality'? |
fangzhen | hello, everyone |
Uranium-235 | I've never applied for a Visa, don't you have to show the talent isn't already in your country to hire outside? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: you have to get the Visa and everything else on your own |
BT_Paul | Insight: what do you mean? |
harvey6ft | what sort of langauges/ tools does BT use? |
amadarum | BT_Paul:what kind of visa? |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: let see what happens |
coder29 | excuse sir does Bt hav a branch in Noida,India.... |
amadarum | BT_Paul: what kind of visa? |
BT_Paul | harvey6ft: all of them |
BT_Adele | Uranium-235: For a self sponspored visa they look at your skills and whether they are niche and specilaist. Rather than the companies recruitment process |
Insight | BT_Paul: (am I misunderstanding) does BT own routers? IS there content specific priority for those routers? |
BT_Lee | coder29: We are only hiring in Bangalore. |
BT_Paul | harvey6ft: lots of Java and .Net but there is still lots of Cobol and Oracle and Siebel and ... |
Uranium-235 | BT_Joe:Now, the question everyone would like to know, definge "good enough" :) |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: Depends |
BT_Paul | Insight: So BT is a telco so yes it owns LOTs of routers |
jbnpaul | Does BT Bangalore have c++ opportunities |
coder29 | BT_Lee: so can we do trainin in BT? |
rahullak | BT_Joe: What is BTs position on charging Internet companies that see traffic that passes primarily through a telecom operator's cables? |
BT_Lee | coder29: I meant within India, we are only hiring in Bangalore |
BT_Paul | Insight: and yes it does enforce a content policy that is not uncommon |
sapling_pk | can a person apply who is still studing?? |
BT_Joe | BT_Joe: no right or wrong answer there |
Insight | BT_Paul: Right, no, is there any move to change that? (This is only a matter of interest for me) |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: well, i wish you the best of luck! |
BT_Paul | jbnpaul: I believe most of the work in Bangalore is Java and C# |
Insight | BT_Paul: *now |
rahullak | BT_Joe: ? |
Amith | BT_Joe: Hi ,Does BT provide training for freshers ? |
Megal | serrg: hi |
BT_Lee | coder29: Yes, we have a very large training budget available for employees |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: thanks |
BT_Joe | BT_Joe: of course we are looking for outstanding coders |
Megal | serrg: hi |
BT_Joe | BT_Joe: but you also need to be a team player |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: i am looking at Paul Blog |
Insight | BT_Paul: I ask because there was a moderately publicized debate in the US on 'net neutrality' |
BT_Paul | Insight: so they block porn and other offensive sites, not sure there is any room for change on that |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: good insights |
Uranium-235 | BT_Joe:Is your development primarily web development? |
serrg | Megal: HI :) |
Uranium-235 | Is a lot of it done in C++ and Java? |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: We do not do primarily any set development |
BT_Dustin | ali_raza_shaikh: paul downey? YES -- he is amazing...he is one of our thought leaders....just an amazingly smart person |
coder29 | BT_Lee: well gr8 gr8 city to live and enjoy ...clean city nd developed... |
BT_Paul | Insight: otherwise, yes, you can get to most any site you need to |
BT_Joe | Uranium-235: some web development of course |
supriti | heloo sir are u ppl hiring freashers as well??? |
PuPulli | BT_Joe: do you look out for perl developers? |
Uranium-235 | BT_Joe:Is being relatively good in a language enough, or must the candidate have specific knowledge of databases or other tools? |
Insight | BT_Paul: *nods* thanks. (no time to revive the debate. Thanks for answering) |
coder29 | niphoton: well gr8 gr8 city to live and enjoy ...clean city nd developed... |
BT_Joe | PuPulli: Yes - but not just perl |
yiuyuho | alright, time to mold some chakra :-) |
BT_Andrew | BT_Joe: Yeah no perl |
BT_Joe | PuPulli: just one of many technologies we work with |
PuPulli | BT_Joe: great..i love java..but its in perl that i've been working since a year |
BT_Joe | BT_Andrew: eh? |
coder29 | niphoton: yeah its near Noida bt is is now developin? |
rahullak | <rolls up sleeves> |
coder29 | niphoton: well who r u ? |
coder29 | niphoton: r u indian ? |
ajinkya | i am |
BT_Andrew | BT_Joe: sorry wrong person |
BT_Joe | PuPulli: great - maybe you will come here and we put you on some .NET |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: i also maintain one at alirazashaikh.blogspot.com |
BT_Andrew | BT_Joe: we have perl...in fact Dustin's a good perl hacker |
niphoton | coder29: well, yeh |
rahullak | coder29: yes he is |
BT_Dustin | PuPulli: there is always room for perl... :) we even have developed a PERL sdk to integrate with our network |
ali_raza_shaikh | BT_Dustin: most write about the things i work on |
winy | BT_Joe: I am a Chinese student, junior in university, can i apply ? |
ajinkya | i am an indian |
BT_Dustin | PuPulli: i will subscribe to that! |
ajinkya | who else is ? |
BT_Joe | winy: too early - maybe for an internship |
bonifatio | i thought perl is only for masochist? hehehe |
Krzysan | how many employees (engineers) do you have? |
PuPulli | BT_Dustin: thanks..i would put up my resume there.. |
BT_Joe | winy: so you have two more years? |
ajinkya | can i get an internship anywhere this dec ? |
rahullak | niphoton: fancy meeting u here |
kev82 | Sorry, I only just logged in - didn't realise there was a BT chat room |
winy | BT_Joe: no, i have one more year |
niphoton | rahullak: where? |
harvey6ft | Is BT doing any college recruiting this year in the US? |
rahullak | niphoton: guess u remember |
rahullak | niphoton: Amrita |
niphoton | rahullak: aah yes |
supriti | BT_Dustin: heloo sir u ppl hiring freshers??? |
winy | BT_Joe: i am at the end of the third year |
kev82 | I'm currently studying for PhD in heuristics/metaheuristics/etc |
BT_Joe | winy: you should send us your details and if you get noticed we might be able to work something out |
BT_Joe | winy: we are pretty flexible |
BT_Joe | winy: and growing rapidly in China |
guptavarun | BT_Joe: Do you have a development center in India? |
BT_Lee | ajinkya: We do not offer internships in general, fixed term placements only. |
kev82 | Do you have any research and development in that area? |
BT_Joe | guptavarun: Bangalore |
BT_Andrew | Now, LISP...there's a language...anyone have interest in writing an SDK in LISP? |
BT_Dustin | supriti: freshers? as in newly graduated? |
rahullak | niphoton: Cool. and u? Come to top the charts here? |
winy | BT_Joe: en, does BT has branch in China? |
BT_Dustin | BT_Andrew: now, YOU are a masochist |
BT_Paul | guptavarun: Bangalore |
supriti | BT_Dustin: yaa im into mah last yr of |
BT_Joe | winy: Dailan |
rahullak | niphoton: here - this SRM |
ajinkya | does BT offer internship in india / |
ajinkya | ? |
BT_Joe | winy: sorry - Dalian |
rahullak | coder29: Just Finished college from Amrita |
rahullak | coder29: in Coimbatore |
jasmeet_89 | how much time left 4 the srm to start?? |
ajinkya | I am a third year comp sci student doing my engg |
BT_Adele | ajinkya: We don't offer interships as such, we can offer fixed perm placements for the right people |
BT_Dustin | supriti: yes, we have hired a bunch of "grads" who have really rocked |
BT_Lee | ajinkya: Unfortunately not. |
guptavarun | BT_Joe: Are you having openings there? |
BT_Joe | jasmeet_89: 8 minutes |
harvey6ft | jasmeet_89: 7 minutes |
supriti | abhicool: nooo dude ut too coll to handle |
BT_Joe | guptavarun: yes |
abhicool | supriti: hehehe :D |
winy | BT_Joe: en, how can i get more information about BT's china branch? |
ajinkya | so i will complete my engg next july |
BT_Joe | guptavarun: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
sushant_singh | hello |
ajinkya | am i elligible for BT ? |
rahullak | niphoton: yeah - though u could step aside on this one occasion and let me through :p |
sushant_singh | what i have done |
BT_Joe | guptavarun: opt in here |
BT_Joe | guptavarun: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
jasmeet_89 | thanx |
rahullak | coder29: wouldn't know him |
abhicool | supriti: giving SRM ?? |
jugglerix | abhicool: you from iit abhi ? |
ajinkya | hello sushant |
sushant_singh | jassi bhai |
BT_Lee | ajinkya: If you have the corect Visa for that particular location then yes |
jasmeet_89 | oye |
abhicool | jugglerix: nope... |
ArthurB | I registered for the SRM at 12:00PM, how do I know which room I am in ? |
sushant_singh | ajinkya??....hi !!! |
jasmeet_89 | too bhi :) |
ajinkya | in india ? |
rahullak | coder29: yep |
rahullak | coder29: what abt u? |
Pritam | niphoton: hi |
agsharath | nai bhi |
agsharath | :) |
ajinkya | i am an indian |
niphoton | rahullak: u have your path clear.. |
rahullak | coder29: CS |
kev82 | ArthurB: Room assignments will be done shortly |
niphoton | Pritam: hey |
sushant_singh | kool....me to |
BT_Joe | admins: so sRM stars in 6 minutes? |
[sur]sata | tgu: R u from nepal? |
Pritam | niphoton: gl hf:) |
jasmeet_89 | harry potter lives :P |
ArthurB | kev82: thx |
winy | BT_Joe: en, how can i get more information about BT's china branch? |
abhicool | Pritam: hi |
BT_Joe | admins: Where is Brian Flood |
supriti | BT_Dustin: rocked as in??? |
Pritam | abhicool: hi |
sushant_singh | most of us r indians man |
PuPulli | BT_Dustin: guys awesome logo you guys have got.. |
niphoton | Pritam: same to you |
rahullak | niphoton: Thanks...so u are NOT participating today? |
harvey6ft | BT_Joe: here |
abhicool | Pritam: long time no see |
Pritam | abhicool: ya srm after quite some time:) |
jmpld40 | if anyone has any additional questions for BT after the chat, feel free to post them here: http://forums.topcoder.com/?module=ThreadList&forumID=516666 |
BT_Dustin | supriti: rocked == very cool....kicking ass... :) |
sushant_singh | jassiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
abhicool | Pritam: aha why so ? |
jasmeet_89 | haha |
imnet4all | admins: Late Registration please?? |
ajinkya | come on INdai |
jasmeet_89 | aur bataoon?? |
harvey6ft | harvey6ft = Brian Flood |
ajinkya | INDIA |
TheFaxman | imnet4all: sorry, we can't add people after reg closes |
Pritam | abhicool: was having some net problems |
bozzball | how do you enter the room? |
sushant_singh | lolz |
klopyrev | gurugan1: Hey |
gurugan1 | hey |
jasmeet_89 | chal mai apney rccc sey karta hun log in ussi sey khelunga |
bozzball | i've registered but enter is not available |
indiancomet | admins: cant enter... |
gurugan1 | klopyrev: how is it going? |
ion_h | patients it happens automatically |
winy | BT_Joe: thanks |
jmpld40 | thanks to all the BT reps for a great chat |
sushant_singh | come on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
imnet4all | admins: Only this time only? I promise it won't happen again |
abhicool | Pritam: ohhh |
BT_Dustin | harvey6ft: brian food? is brian eating you? who's brian? ;) |
klopyrev | gurugan1: Pretty good |
TheFaxman | imnet4all: sorry, no exceptions |
klopyrev | gurugan1: You? |
sushant_singh | yeah thanx too BT |
gurugan1 | klopyrev: preety awesome |
neolles | What is the real world? |
Amith | BT_Joe: Thanks to all BT reps |
bonifatio | automatically ?? whoa i love automatically |
catkin | sounds nice bt~ |
gurugan1 | klopyrev: i was downtown last night until 12. |
srik_sama | imnet4all: you made TheFaxman's day ;) |
neolles | Who is the one? |
bozzball | enter is lit up for the other contest - the TCHS one |
Jadriman | thanks guys |
supriti | BT_Dustin: yup bt the same probs...... im still stuck wid vectors hehe |
bozzball | but i registered for the other one |
deepupai | admin: cant enter |
deepupai | admin: cant enter |
jmpld40 | again, post questions here afterwards: http://forums.topcoder.com/?module=ThreadList&forumID=516666 |
klopyrev | gurugan1: Cool |
rahullak | coder29: yeah u too |
born_2_code | nameste.!!!!!!!! |
jmpld40 | opt in here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt |
sushant_singh | come on !!! |
sushant_singh | let me enter now |
bonifatio | 2 minutes!!!! |
v4vishal | where the hell are assignments? |
jasmeet_89 | ENTER ENTER ENTER |
sushant_singh | i min 10 sec |
ion_h | who's going to use all the junk we program? |
bozzball | admins > i registered for srm 359, but enter has appeared for tchs srm 359 |
imnet4all | admins: i have been trying to register for the past 10 minutes, and i don't know what was wrong |
klopyrev | gurugan1: rooms |
ajinkya | from where are you susha |
Insight | patience is a virtue... |
Pritam | v4vishal: hi:) |
Soultaker | v4vishal: relax. |
ajinkya | *sushant |
klopyrev | . |
BT_Joe | GOOD LUCK! |
gurugan1 | klopyrev: it was preety cool. i have never been downtown that late |
gurugan1 | klopyrev: so what have you been up2? |
diegocaminha | JUST WAIT |
sushant_singh | heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
sushant_singh | lemme enter noqw |
klopyrev | . |
gurugan1 | klopyrev: i think it will be a delayed start this time |
klopyrev | . |
beyonlin_scut | good luck, everyone! |
Soyoja | ... |
sushant_singh | this is cheating !! |
bonifatio | 45 sec! |
indiancomet | admins: enter is greyed out |
sushant_singh | i am from delhi |
kfrane | when can we enter the SRM |
Eeyore | lars: Laaaaaars! |
jtura | me too :S |
bonifatio | 30 sec! |
harvey6ft | Good luck in the Arena Everyone!! |
jmpld40 | good luck everyone |
code_rasher | dfdf |
BT_Joe | admins: Brian |
kfrane | d |
ajinkya | stopped |
kp7 | lag test |
ankur_vjy | 20 secs |
XXI | 15 |
week | what happpen? |
sushant_singh | delhi |
ajinkya | 15 secs |
BT_Joe | admins: brian |
kfrane | when can we enter srm? |
[sur]sata | what happened |
PuPulli | BT_Dustin: you guys left? |
ajiu09 | Anyone Alive? |
supriti | abhicool: gosh possibly net dus srm light gone |
BT_Dustin | PuPulli: no, still here |
supriti | abhicool: ' |
ArthurB | hey |
harvey6ft | BT_Joe: yeah, this is me, Brian |
ArthurB | where are room assignments ! |
imnet4all | admins: Allright, Thanks for your time Faxman |
BT_Joe | admins: So what next |
BT_Joe | admins: how do we whisper |
writer2 | BT_Joe: use /msg |