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ali_raza_shaikhBT_Joe: and how you people are deadling with Visa Issues?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Joe: for US Office
BT_Joere Visas and HR ask Adele and Lee
BT_Joethey are from BT HR
abhicoolBT_Joe: hi there
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Joe: ok
BT_Joehello
NikhilVermaHi BT_* :)
BT_AdeleHi there- Visa wise we are not sponsoring people but if you obtain your own you are welcome to work in a different country
Steeledhow much do you pay?
rahullakBT_Joe: So if I'm an Indian, and I apply to BT, is there a chance I'll be posted in Denver or London?
BT_JoeCompetitve rates
omsiddhBT_Adele:i want to apply for internship ....please guide me?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Adele: even for China?
BT_JoeLook, if you want to join a Telco who is looking to go head to head with Google then this is the place for you
SteeledHOW MUCH DO YOU PAY?!?
BT_AdeleYeah you can work in china if you can get your own visa there
BT_JoeCompetitive rates
BT_Joeif you make it through the screening and interviews you will find out
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Adele: means there is no re-location package from BT?
rahullakBT_Joe: What do u mean by competitive rates?
BT_Paulanybody looked at the BT SDK?
BT_Joenot going to discuss details of the package here
omsiddhBT_Joe: i want to apply for internship ....please guide me?
BT_LeeThere can be relocation packages available if you have a right to work in that locations and the skills are required there.
BT_JoeBT offers great salary and excellent benefits
BT_JoeTelcos have a history of this
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: yes
ralSteeled: STOP!
zhaofu(do_ob)BT_Joe: beside the salary, does your comp. have a similar working enviorment as google ?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: i like the video that was put on Channel9
omsiddhBT_Paul: i want to apply for internship ....please guide me?
BT_Paulthat was great
BT_AdeleInterships aren't common but can be possible in the right circumstances
BT_PaulRobbie and Nigel are good guys
ralSteeled: Ei tibia boy, vc tá mto folgado
ion_hwhat IDE platform is mainly used at BT?
BT_JoeWe have some small groups that may be google like, but we are not google
BT_Paulonly been at BT for 2 years and already got their faces on Channel 9
BT_JoeYep
skaterboydo u hire from India
MinnyHello BT guys, has anyone asked you guys about internship position in Europe?
rahullakBT_Joe: Who are your clients?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: it is really great
BT_JoeWe hire in India
BT_Dustinmainly eclipse and visual studio, but some have even used VI + scripts, etc
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: it is great to see applications getting out from the SDK
BT_AdeleInterships aren't common but can be possible and would be primarily in london
BT_DustinIDEA is somewhat popular too, but typically you have to buy it yourself
BT_JoeWe have consumer, SMB and Enterprise clients in 170 countries
omsiddhBT_Joe: interships at BT in india????guide me???
ilyanepSo what sort of things do you guys do in the US [if any]?
rahullakBT_Joe: clients such as....?
tguwhere is BT located?
jmpld40to apply for BT, go here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
BT_JoeCredit Suisse
BT_JoeReuters
rahullakBT_Joe: Microsoft?
BT_AdeleGenerally we don't offer interships in india
abhicoolBT_Adele: I will be graduating my engg degree in 2008... what opportunities do I have at BT ?
BT_Joe1.7 million SMBs in the UK
rahullakBT_Joe: cool
BT_Joe27 million consumers in UK
rahullakBT_Joe: wow
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: Paul, what skills you are looking for?
BT_JoeWe are one of the biggest Telcos in the world
dhjnavydo you have any branch in china?
BT_Joeyes
BT_LeeDalian
BT_JoeChina - Dailan
BT_Andrewilya
BT_Joewe are hiring there now
rahullakBT_Joe: exactly - what skills are u looking for?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: good software craftsmanship skills
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: good desgn
BT_AdeleAs a graduate we have several options both on the grad scheme but also directly into technical roles
rahullakBT_Joe: how do u judge these for a new graduate?
dhjnavywhich cities?
harvey6ftGreetings!
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: a passion for your craft
BT_Joerahullak: it depends
BT_Andrewilyanep: in the US (Denver in particular) we're primarily a group of software engineers. Not particularly sure elsewhere in the States
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: an ability to work with a team
BT_Joerahullak: generally OOP skills
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: yes
BT_Joerahullak: we do .NET and J2EE
omsiddhBT_Joe: but i can pursue internship in US if i get a visa
BT_Joerahullak: among other things
rahullakBT_Joe: tested by taking written test?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: in short smart people who like to code
BT_Joerahullak: specifics are less important than ability to learn and work quickly and efficiently
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: i have C# Experience
BT_Joerahullak: intellectual curiosity
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: great
rahullakBT_Joe: yes....but how do u judge that?
BT_Joerahullak: You are getting tested through TopCoder
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: have you worked in any other languages
rahullakBT_Joe: ...any other way besides TopCoder?
BT_Joerahullak: Interview will involve the "Gauntlet"
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: yes
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: even better
BT_Joerahullak: you will spend a day with our development teams
BT_Joerahullak: pair programming
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: i have worked on C/C++ and little bit Java
rahullakBT_Joe: ahh
rahullakBT_Joe: My kinda thing
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: shiffted to C# during my Studay
BT_Joerahullak: we will see in real time your capabilities and if you are a right fit for the team
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: *Study
rahullakBT_Joe: sounds alright to me
ilyanepBT_Andrew: I'm currently a high school student, and will be graduating 2009. Are there any sort of internship/educational opportunities at Denver for me?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: and did certifications in that
BT_Dustinwe're looking for _sharp_ technical people/skills....not a single particular technology....C#/Java/etc...all are good, but we want TECH skills before a certain technology...
raashiHi- Whats the average development time spent by a programmer at BT
BT_Joeilyanep: participate in TC High School
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: i am giving .Net Trainings in my Region under INETA and Culminis Platform
BT_Paulraashi: what does that mean
rahullakBT_Joe: still, I'd like to know - what's your Mission Statement. What is your Vision Statement?
dhjnavyi have some SIP related skills
NikaustrBT_Andrew: Hey! How are doing?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: have you ever worked with any Agile Methodologies?
BT_Joerahullak: Our vision is to be dedicated to helping customers thrive in a changing world and our mission is to be the leader in delivering converged networked software services.
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: yes
NikaustrBT_Andrew: Are there any jobs for BLUE TCs? :)
BT_Joedhjnavy: SIP background is good
raashiBT_Paul: i mean how much percentage of montly time is spent in designing and coding for a typical programming position?
BT_Joedhjnavy: but SDK abstracts SIP so that developers do not need to know
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: but i am still in the beginning
rahullakBT_Joe: do u have an AI group?
adr_inscBT_Paul: In BT the development is done in an agile spirit?
dhjnavyyes, i am working on the jsr116 and jsr289
BT_Paulraashi: 90%
BT_Andrewilyanep: We don't really have any internships. Those sound like they're not as common and usually only in London.
BT_Joerahullak: yes
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: you are totally product based?
BT_Joerahullak: in the CTO group
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: play with it
rahullakBT_Joe: CTO?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: Try TDD
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: or you develop applications for client under your SDK
BT_Joerahullak: Chief Technology Office
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: do both
rahullakBT_Joe: which is where?
BT_Joerahullak: we have 100K employees
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: you mean Test Driven Development
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: we have a group that does client engagments around the SDK and the core Engineering team that works on the SDK
BT_Joerahullak: and a group looking at probably every type of technology you can imagine
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: i have a experience of it on TopCoder by winning 3 Testing Competitions
BT_Joerahullak: CTO group is primarily based in the UK
rahullakBT_Joe: what work does your AI work do?
BT_Joerahullak: not sure
BT_AndrewNikaustr: There's jobs for all types of elite software craftsmen
BT_Joerahullak: if you make it through the screening process we can redirect you to the right group
rahullakBT_Joe: So if I want to work in the AI group, but am in India, will I get to work in the UK
BT_Joerahullak: Probably not
BT_Joerahullak: you can work remotely
rahullakBT_Joe: :( tough lucj
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: great. But it is important that all developers are great testers.
rahullakBT_Joe: oh?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: great
rahullakBT_Joe: Work remotely?
BT_Joerahullak: yes
rahullakBT_Joe: Join the Indian offices though?
BT_Joerahullak: we are a distributed company
BT_Joerahullak: yes
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: means you don;t have seperate positions like SDE and SDET like Microsoft have
NikaustrBT_Andrew: Cool! I'm a PhD student in the UK (originally from Ukraine). I'm 21. And I would like to do something interesting and something that could get me some money :). What would you suggest, please?
rahullakBT_Joe: hmm
BT_Joerahullak: BT is pretty flexible for the right people
rahullakBT_Joe: The screening process is?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: No
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: we don't
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: some groups do
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: fine
adr_inscBT_An
BT_Joerahullak: First step is to opt in our posting so we get your TC details and a CV if you have one with TC
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: but in my group everyone does everything
BT_Joerahullak: likewise we will get recommendations from TC
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: design, test, code, refactor
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: do you look for innovative ideas from the Developers?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: always
BT_Joerahullak: From there we will screen candidates based on various criteria
BT_Joerahullak: probably followed by a phone interview
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: you know about Pixsense?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: you have to be able to articulate your ideas
rahullakBT_Joe: ah...so I'll have to at least 3 rd place in this SRM?
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: innovation is huge and must....we dont want just code goats... :)
BT_Joerahullak: you would get noticed
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: that is great
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: no I don't
BT_Joerahullak: But I see you are gray rated...
BT_AndrewNikaustr: First step seems to be to opt in our posting so we get all yoru details and a CV/Resume if you have one...
rahullakBT_Joe: :) Means getting a shot is more difficult huh?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: mostly what i see is that a company impose things on you
BT_Joerahullak: Depends on how many people opt in
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: always
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: especially large ones
BT_Joerahullak: if we get 400 opt ins
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: yeah
BT_Joerahullak: we can not look at every one
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: its all about being able to articulate your thoughts
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: yeah
BT_Joerahullak: we will try to look at top 10% or so
BT_Joerahullak: based on rating, SRM performance and other factors, as advised by TC
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: how you treat Technology upgrades?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: like moving from Windows Mobile old edition to new ones?
BT_JoeSO WHY DO YOU GUYS DO TC?
rahullakBT_Joe: Opting-in is done during Registration for the SRM right?
BT_JoeWHAT MOTIVATES YOU?
harvey6ftrahullak: right
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: carefully
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: ok
rahullakBT_Joe: Do u have real-time data on how many have opted-in so far?
BT_Joerahullak: no
adr_inscBT_Joe: Challenges
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: do you have internal trainings for developers?
rahullakBT_Joe: Challenges
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: any upgrade requires thought and testing to minimize impact on the user
BT_Joerahullak: we get a online mgmt syst
BT_Joeadmins: when do people opt in
rahullakBT_Joe: ..and a sense of the bigger picture
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: yeah, but we also strongly push open source and new technology when there is a good fit
BT_Joeadmins: before SRM and after?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: great
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: you are looking for a CS Degree or a Telecom Degree?
TheFaxmanBT_Joe: before, as part of registration for the round
garelliBT_Lee: Is there any oportunity of work for people from latin america?
rahullakBT_Joe: So FaxMan has the opt-in data
BT_LeeIf you can obtain a Visa to work in one of our four locations then yes.
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: yes on the Degree perfer CS, but the rest depends on the person
jmpld40you can also opt in to job opportunities with BT here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: fine
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: what kind is impact is of Microsoft on BT?
adr_inscBT_Joe: Is experience somthing deseired for you or not?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: is it Research Oriented?
BT_Joeadr_insc: talent above all else
rahullakBT_Joe: waitaminute - is the company in India called Mahindra British Telecom?
jmpld40control V
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: BT and Microsoft have several strategic partnerships
BT_Joeadr_insc: unlike other professions, tenure is less important
BT_Joeadr_insc: but experience helps
BT_Joerahullak: used to be
BT_Joerahullak: now just TM
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: it is a wide ranging partnership on several levels
rahullakBT_Joe: TM?
BT_Joerahullak: we used be a JV partner with them
rahullakBT_Joe: ok
BT_Joerahullak: we still do some offshore work with them
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: i mean on Development Side
BT_Joerahullak: Tech Mahindra
gsbhatiaBT_Joe: But isn't MBT still in existance?
BT_Joerahullak: yes
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: something like, BT Suggest new features and improvements for Windows Mobile
BT_Joerahullak: called Tech mahindra
NikaustrBT_Andrew: OK
harvey6ftWhat sort of problems to programers deal with on an everyday basis at BT?
abhicoolBT_Lee: BT uses which development platform and what do CS people have work to do exactly in Telecom industry (specially what do you expect from TopCoders) ??
NikaustrBT_Andrew: But are there any options for PhD students who wish to continue their studies?
NikaustrBT_Andrew: like a part-time job ...
NikaustrBT_Andrew: or ...
adr_inscBT_Joe: Are theese positions opened also for foreigners?
rahullakBT_Joe: Tech Mahindra has offices in Chennai?
NikaustrBT_Andrew: anything that can be done at home
NikaustrBT_Andrew: like solving problems
NikaustrBT_Andrew: algorithms
NikaustrBT_Andrew: etc
NikaustrBT_Andrew: maybe, writing website updates etc
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: I don't deal with Windows Mobile myself, but yes, we do sometimes go to Redmond for consulting
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: fine
BT_Leeabhicool: I think it is best to ask one of the Technical Team
BT_AndrewNikaustr: Hmm...Good question, maybe one for the HR people as they're more familiar w/ the range of positions.
BT_JoeWWW.SDK.BT.COM
abhicoolBT_Lee: who exactly is from technical team :) ?
BT_JoeEVERYBODY CHECK IT OUT
BT_PaulHi Lee
BT_Joeabhicool: ask Andrew
rahullakBT_Joe: so does TM have offices in Chennai, India?
BT_Andrewabhicool: HI there... i'm from the technical team
NikaustrBT_Andrew: OK, thank you very much!
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: thanks for all your answers, i should move to Dustin for asking about his role as SE
BT_Joerahullak: go to their website
BT_Joerahullak: they are an offshore partner now
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Paul: where should i send my resume? email?
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: no worries
BT_DustinBT_Joe: technical team -- Dustin, Andrew, and Paul
BT_Joerahullak: we are hiring for a BT captive site
harvey6fthttp://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
BT_Paulali_raza_shaikh: ask BT_Lee
BT_Joerahullak: i.e. BT employees in India in Bangalore
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: Hello
BT_Andrewabhicool: We have all sorts of development platforms, though we primarily work in Java and .NET
BT_AdeleWe can offer placement year or fixed term work but part time while studying is unlikely
harvey6ftali_raza_shaikh: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
BT_AndrewNikaustr: BT_Lee and BT_Adele are our HR reps here today
ali_raza_shaikhharvey6ft: thanks
rahullakBT_Joe: ok now I get it
adr_inscBT_Joe: Will the applications done directly from the site be taken into consideration?
dinoj18any one knows the profile abt BT
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: you are working as a SE?
BT_Leeali_raza_shaikh: Please attach you resume to your TC profile and we will receive it when the SRM is over
BT_Joeadr_insc: you mean from TC?
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: yes
adr_inscBT_Joe: yes
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: hi,i want to know if u have any development centre in India as well
harvey6ftadr_insc: yes
NikaustrBT_Andrew: thank you!
BT_Joeadr_insc: yes - the problems solved - there are no applications
rahullakBT_Andrew: Hi. Supposing I did not know a whole lot of SDKs like MFC, .NET library etc. but am willing to learn. Do I have a chance? (and am a new graduate)
dinoj18is thr any research center in India
dinoj18]
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: so tell us about your role
NikaustrBT_Adele: Hey, how're you doing?
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: Yeah we have a development centre in Bangolore
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: like what challenges you face etc etc
BT_Leedinoj18: We have a development centre in Bangalore
BT_Andrewrahullak: Absoltutely, a passion to learn and the ability to pick new things up is a must for any successful engineer
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: r u a .Net Guy?
BT_AdeleNikaustr: Very well cheers, how can i help?
InsightHi Guys. Where in London are you located? Is it far from the metro or affordable residential areas?
dinoj18coimbatore
adr_inscBT_Joe: from the tc site u can sent your resume . this is what i meant
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: i'm more of a senior technical developer....don't do any day-to-day management.... mostly coding, working on sotries and tasks with a small team here in Denver
NikaustrBT_Adele: Are there any options for PhD students who wish to continue their studies?
BT_JoeInsight: Central london
NikaustrBT_Adele: maybe some part-time jobs ...
NikaustrBT_Adele: or
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: ok
BT_Andrewrahullak: it's not about a particular technology or sdk because in this industry they change very rapidly
BT_Joeadr_insc: yes - opt in via TC
BT_LeeInsight: We are located in central London, next to major transport routes.
NikaustrBT_Adele: I'm 21. Doing my PhD in computational chemistry in the UK
rahullakBT_Andrew: So how exactly (apart from TopCoder) do you hire people? How do u test potential employees? Algorithms? Problem solving skills?
NikaustrBT_Adele: (originally from Ukraine)
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: you work on .Net?
BT_AdeleNikaustr: We don't really have part time jobs for people. We do offer placements so people can come work for 6months, 1yr etc.
InsightWhat kind of employee benefits are there?
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: in denver, our project deals a lot with security (WS-Security, certs, etc) (we did a lot of the foundation security work for the SDKs at sdk.bt.com....
Insight(a specific helath insurance?)
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: great
NikaustrBT_Adele: aah, are there any projects connected to database management, neural networks etc?
dinoj18can u tel me more abt the company???
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: so are you hiring for your bangalore centre as well, how can i apply in that case
BT_Andrewrahullak: Other than through TC, we do a series of interviews as well as some pair programming sessions to see if you're a good fit.
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: MOSTLY for me has been Java, but we did a lot of .NET/WSE3.0 last year (and SOME now)
BT_AdeleNikaustr: obviously if you are great in your placement then when you complete studies we could look at perm role
BT_LeeInsight: it varies dependant on Location and role level but they are very competitive and flexible
BT_Joedinoj18: go to www.btplc.com
NikaustrBT_Adele: OK, thanks!
BT_AdeleNikaustr: Not sure about the projects ,best to check with the technical team
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: do you maintain any blog?
NikaustrBT_Adele: who is in the technical team?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: or any other Team Member
rahullakBT_Andrew: Isn't it necessary for potential employees to know the range of benefits they would be getting?
BT_JoeNikaustr: paul, andrew, dustin
NikaustrBT_Joe: thanks!!
BT_LeeNikaustr: any of the other BT people except myself and Adele
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: i should be MUCH better....i have one for myself, but it is more of a place i put my own techie tips in case i need them again...
rahullakBT_Andrew: And what sort of work does the AI group at CTO do?
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: If you opt in on TC then that is the best place to start
adr_inscBT_Joe: for foreigners will BT asure a place to stay?
NikaustrBT_Lee: thanks!
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: yes, several of our team members do -- let me find some for ya
BT_Joeadr_insc: you have to find your own accomodation
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: so you will get the resumes from TC site?
BT_Joeadr_insc: we may relocate though
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: that would be great
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: Yeah ideally
BT_Andrewrahullak: Not too familiar w/ the AI group in CTO. I think as far as finding out the range of benefits we'd be getting from potential employees, we've been quite successful esp in the programming sessions
BT_Joeadr_insc: we do not do visas currently, but there are exceptions
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: in that case, i haven't uploaded mine
BT_Joeadr_insc: ask Lee and Adele
BT_PaulYou need to ask Adel or Lee, but there is some link off the TC Site
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: so would it be ok if i do that after this SRM
BT_PaulApply there, phone screen, face-2-face, gauntlet, comittee, and then an offer
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: what challenges you face w.r.t to so many devices coming out these days
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: well if you can still, great. Otherwise afterwards, is cool too
harvey6ftnirmal_mehta: yeah, you can opt in at any time at: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
adr_inscBT_Joe: so probably more discussions will take place after the contest if BT is interested in someone right?
BT_Joeadr_insc: yes
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: thanks for the information
abhicoolBT_Andrew: thats great
BT_Joeadr_insc: you need to opt in so we get your details
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: you should have to develop a version for each platform
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: no worries
rahullakBT_Andrew: But do you take the TC performance into account also? Supposing I were to apply directly to BT...would you or would you not consider the TC performance?
adr_inscBT_Joe: Yes. Thank you!
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: thanks for the link
rahullakBT_Joe: Thanks for all that info :)
BT_Joerahullak: no problem
BT_Joerahullak: good luck with the SRM
PuPulliBT_Joe: Do you have any office in India?
BT_Andrewrahullak: We'd take it all into consideration. It's really the whole picture we're looking for. Lack of a TC performance wouldn't necessarily be a barrier. But obviously a good TC performance does help
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: we have a blog page for our team at http://sdk.bt.com/Community/Blogs/tabid/71/Default.aspx.... here's one of our gurus who blogs some: http://www.whatfettle.com (Paul Downey)....
BT_JoePuPulli: yes - bangalore
rahullakBT_Joe: Thanks... I'm gonna need it... considering I'm in the grey :)
InsightI'm not entirely sure I understand the company strategy
PuPulliBT_Joe: are you planning to hire people there?
PuPulliBT_Joe: how do I apply to the bangalore office?
BT_JoePuPulli: Yes - read our posting
InsightIs BT developing and prodiving web 2.0 content and technology themselves?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: great
Insightor, in some way building a backbone to support it?
BT_JoeInsight: yes
BT_JoeInsight: www.sdk.bt.com
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: we don't do a lot of device-specific development on our team...mainly, we develop the SDKs that others can use to develop their apps with (mashups, etc)
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: ok
BT_LeePuPulli: Opt in to the SRM and we will look at you details and location.
rahullakBT_Andrew: Thank goodness for that
rahullakBT_Andrew: As you can see...my TC rating needs a lot to be desired...so
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: SDK idea is great
PuPulliBT_Lee: are u asking me to register for this SRM?
BT_AndrewBT_Adele: and BT_Lee are our HR reps, they're more familiar w/ the types of internships avaialble...sounds mostly in London though
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: Third Party Developer create many innovative samples using these SDKs
BT_LeePuPulli: If you would like to be considered for job opportunities then yes pleae opt in.
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: i watched this SDK first working on Channel9
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: yeah, we have had a BLAST doing it....and going to TechEd and Java One and other confs to promote it
harvey6ftPuPulli: you don't have to compete in this SRM in order to opt in at: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
PuPulliharvey6ft: thanks
Uranium-235Hello
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: have you had a chance to play with it yet? would you download the .net or java (or python one? -- we even have a ruby and perl, too as we had developers who had a lot of interest in those languages)
InsightWow, okay, so the SDK, this brings unique features to the devices or unique features period?
BT_JoeUranium-235: hello
BT_JoeUranium-235: good handle
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: i mainly work on .Net
Uranium-235Actually, I thought of asking TC to change it for a specific reason :(
InsightBT_Joe: You had better only hire a few of him. And no neutron moderators...
PuPulliBT_Lee: what specific skills are you looking for?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: i am looking at the SDK these days
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: for the Mesh Up Competition
BT_JoeInsight: What are you talking abt?
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: hi again, i have uploaded my resume and have applied for the job
Uranium-235BT_Joe: Sorry if this has already been asked, but, are these jobs located in the UK?
BT_JoeUranium-235: yes
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: awesome -- i'd like to see what you come up with
BT_JoeUranium-235: London
InsightBT_Joe: It's a silly jest at the criticality of too much uranium 235, one I'd like to take back...
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: excellent, very efficient of you!
rahullakInsight: "Don't enumerate your data before they hash"
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: when should i expect hearing from you, in case i am selected
Uranium-235Does that mean you would be more likely to hire UK folks first?
BT_Andrewrahullak: Yeah sharp, innovative, and gets things done. That's what makes the best engineers. However, those are hard to define and measure sometimes so we use a multitude of inputs really.
BT_JoeInsight: esp. re the polonium 210 event recently
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: sure
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: within the next month
harvey6ftUranium-235: UK, US, China, India
BT_JoeInsight: no problem
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: thanks for all your response
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: overall the positions are good at BT
nirmal_mehtaBT_Adele: ok,thanks a lot
AI-manI would like to know about BT's india centre
BT_Adelenirmal_mehta: no worries, good luck!
BT_LeePuPulli: On eof the Technical Team will answer that.
InsightDoes BT hire Canadians who would need to acquire visas?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: but the only concern is of Re-location
BT_JoeInsight: possibly
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: Pakistan
rahullakInsight: "Don't enumerate your data before they hash"
aydarovBT_Joe: Have you seen film 'Meet Joe Black'?
BT_JoeInsight: We generally are looking for people to sponsor their own Visas
BT_AdeleInsight: Yeah we would hire people who have visas but we are not sponsoring people so its up to the individual to obtain their own clearance
BT_Joeaydarov: I see we have a comedian here
BT_Joeaydarov: yes - I have
rahullakcomedian?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: yes, i have
InsightOkay, one more quick question -- is there a company position, official or unofficial, on 'net neutrality'?
fangzhenhello, everyone
Uranium-235I've never applied for a Visa, don't you have to show the talent isn't already in your country to hire outside?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: you have to get the Visa and everything else on your own
BT_PaulInsight: what do you mean?
harvey6ftwhat sort of langauges/ tools does BT use?
amadarumBT_Paul:what kind of visa?
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: let see what happens
coder29excuse sir does Bt hav a branch in Noida,India....
amadarumBT_Paul: what kind of visa?
BT_Paulharvey6ft: all of them
BT_AdeleUranium-235: For a self sponspored visa they look at your skills and whether they are niche and specilaist. Rather than the companies recruitment process
InsightBT_Paul: (am I misunderstanding) does BT own routers? IS there content specific priority for those routers?
BT_Leecoder29: We are only hiring in Bangalore.
BT_Paulharvey6ft: lots of Java and .Net but there is still lots of Cobol and Oracle and Siebel and ...
Uranium-235BT_Joe:Now, the question everyone would like to know, definge "good enough" :)
BT_JoeUranium-235: Depends
BT_PaulInsight: So BT is a telco so yes it owns LOTs of routers
jbnpaulDoes BT Bangalore have c++ opportunities
coder29BT_Lee: so can we do trainin in BT?
rahullakBT_Joe: What is BTs position on charging Internet companies that see traffic that passes primarily through a telecom operator's cables?
BT_Leecoder29: I meant within India, we are only hiring in Bangalore
BT_PaulInsight: and yes it does enforce a content policy that is not uncommon
sapling_pkcan a person apply who is still studing??
BT_JoeBT_Joe: no right or wrong answer there
InsightBT_Paul: Right, no, is there any move to change that? (This is only a matter of interest for me)
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: well, i wish you the best of luck!
BT_Pauljbnpaul: I believe most of the work in Bangalore is Java and C#
InsightBT_Paul: *now
rahullakBT_Joe: ?
AmithBT_Joe: Hi ,Does BT provide training for freshers ?
Megalserrg: hi
BT_Leecoder29: Yes, we have a very large training budget available for employees
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: thanks
BT_JoeBT_Joe: of course we are looking for outstanding coders
Megalserrg: hi
BT_JoeBT_Joe: but you also need to be a team player
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: i am looking at Paul Blog
InsightBT_Paul: I ask because there was a moderately publicized debate in the US on 'net neutrality'
BT_PaulInsight: so they block porn and other offensive sites, not sure there is any room for change on that
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: good insights
Uranium-235BT_Joe:Is your development primarily web development?
serrgMegal: HI :)
Uranium-235Is a lot of it done in C++ and Java?
BT_JoeUranium-235: We do not do primarily any set development
BT_Dustinali_raza_shaikh: paul downey? YES -- he is amazing...he is one of our thought leaders....just an amazingly smart person
coder29BT_Lee: well gr8 gr8 city to live and enjoy ...clean city nd developed...
BT_PaulInsight: otherwise, yes, you can get to most any site you need to
BT_JoeUranium-235: some web development of course
supritiheloo sir are u ppl hiring freashers as well???
PuPulliBT_Joe: do you look out for perl developers?
Uranium-235BT_Joe:Is being relatively good in a language enough, or must the candidate have specific knowledge of databases or other tools?
InsightBT_Paul: *nods* thanks. (no time to revive the debate. Thanks for answering)
coder29niphoton: well gr8 gr8 city to live and enjoy ...clean city nd developed...
BT_JoePuPulli: Yes - but not just perl
yiuyuhoalright, time to mold some chakra :-)
BT_AndrewBT_Joe: Yeah no perl
BT_JoePuPulli: just one of many technologies we work with
PuPulliBT_Joe: great..i love java..but its in perl that i've been working since a year
BT_JoeBT_Andrew: eh?
coder29niphoton: yeah its near Noida bt is is now developin?
rahullak<rolls up sleeves>
coder29niphoton: well who r u ?
coder29niphoton: r u indian ?
ajinkyai am
BT_AndrewBT_Joe: sorry wrong person
BT_JoePuPulli: great - maybe you will come here and we put you on some .NET
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: i also maintain one at alirazashaikh.blogspot.com
BT_AndrewBT_Joe: we have perl...in fact Dustin's a good perl hacker
niphotoncoder29: well, yeh
rahullakcoder29: yes he is
BT_DustinPuPulli: there is always room for perl... :) we even have developed a PERL sdk to integrate with our network
ali_raza_shaikhBT_Dustin: most write about the things i work on
winyBT_Joe: I am a Chinese student, junior in university, can i apply ?
ajinkyai am an indian
BT_DustinPuPulli: i will subscribe to that!
ajinkyawho else is ?
BT_Joewiny: too early - maybe for an internship
bonifatioi thought perl is only for masochist? hehehe
Krzysanhow many employees (engineers) do you have?
PuPulliBT_Dustin: thanks..i would put up my resume there..
BT_Joewiny: so you have two more years?
ajinkyacan i get an internship anywhere this dec ?
rahullakniphoton: fancy meeting u here
kev82Sorry, I only just logged in - didn't realise there was a BT chat room
winyBT_Joe: no, i have one more year
niphotonrahullak: where?
harvey6ftIs BT doing any college recruiting this year in the US?
rahullakniphoton: guess u remember
rahullakniphoton: Amrita
niphotonrahullak: aah yes
supritiBT_Dustin: heloo sir u ppl hiring freshers???
winyBT_Joe: i am at the end of the third year
kev82I'm currently studying for PhD in heuristics/metaheuristics/etc
BT_Joewiny: you should send us your details and if you get noticed we might be able to work something out
BT_Joewiny: we are pretty flexible
BT_Joewiny: and growing rapidly in China
guptavarunBT_Joe: Do you have a development center in India?
BT_Leeajinkya: We do not offer internships in general, fixed term placements only.
kev82Do you have any research and development in that area?
BT_Joeguptavarun: Bangalore
BT_AndrewNow, LISP...there's a language...anyone have interest in writing an SDK in LISP?
BT_Dustinsupriti: freshers? as in newly graduated?
rahullakniphoton: Cool. and u? Come to top the charts here?
winyBT_Joe: en, does BT has branch in China?
BT_DustinBT_Andrew: now, YOU are a masochist
BT_Paulguptavarun: Bangalore
supritiBT_Dustin: yaa im into mah last yr of
BT_Joewiny: Dailan
rahullakniphoton: here - this SRM
ajinkyadoes BT offer internship in india /
ajinkya?
BT_Joewiny: sorry - Dalian
rahullakcoder29: Just Finished college from Amrita
rahullakcoder29: in Coimbatore
jasmeet_89how much time left 4 the srm to start??
ajinkyaI am a third year comp sci student doing my engg
BT_Adeleajinkya: We don't offer interships as such, we can offer fixed perm placements for the right people
BT_Dustinsupriti: yes, we have hired a bunch of "grads" who have really rocked
BT_Leeajinkya: Unfortunately not.
guptavarunBT_Joe: Are you having openings there?
BT_Joejasmeet_89: 8 minutes
harvey6ftjasmeet_89: 7 minutes
supritiabhicool: nooo dude ut too coll to handle
BT_Joeguptavarun: yes
abhicoolsupriti: hehehe :D
winyBT_Joe: en, how can i get more information about BT's china branch?
ajinkyaso i will complete my engg next july
BT_Joeguptavarun: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
sushant_singhhello
ajinkyaam i elligible for BT ?
rahullakniphoton: yeah - though u could step aside on this one occasion and let me through :p
sushant_singhwhat i have done
BT_Joeguptavarun: opt in here
BT_Joeguptavarun: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
jasmeet_89thanx
rahullakcoder29: wouldn't know him
abhicoolsupriti: giving SRM ??
jugglerixabhicool: you from iit abhi ?
ajinkyahello sushant
sushant_singhjassi bhai
BT_Leeajinkya: If you have the corect Visa for that particular location then yes
jasmeet_89oye
abhicooljugglerix: nope...
ArthurBI registered for the SRM at 12:00PM, how do I know which room I am in ?
sushant_singhajinkya??....hi !!!
jasmeet_89too bhi :)
ajinkyain india ?
rahullakcoder29: yep
rahullakcoder29: what abt u?
Pritamniphoton: hi
agsharathnai bhi
agsharath:)
ajinkyai am an indian
niphotonrahullak: u have your path clear..
rahullakcoder29: CS
kev82ArthurB: Room assignments will be done shortly
niphotonPritam: hey
sushant_singhkool....me to
BT_Joeadmins: so sRM stars in 6 minutes?
[sur]satatgu: R u from nepal?
Pritamniphoton: gl hf:)
jasmeet_89harry potter lives :P
ArthurBkev82: thx
winyBT_Joe: en, how can i get more information about BT's china branch?
abhicoolPritam: hi
BT_Joeadmins: Where is Brian Flood
supritiBT_Dustin: rocked as in???
Pritamabhicool: hi
sushant_singhmost of us r indians man
PuPulliBT_Dustin: guys awesome logo you guys have got..
niphotonPritam: same to you
rahullakniphoton: Thanks...so u are NOT participating today?
harvey6ftBT_Joe: here
abhicoolPritam: long time no see
Pritamabhicool: ya srm after quite some time:)
jmpld40if anyone has any additional questions for BT after the chat, feel free to post them here: http://forums.topcoder.com/?module=ThreadList&forumID=516666
BT_Dustinsupriti: rocked == very cool....kicking ass... :)
sushant_singhjassiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
abhicoolPritam: aha why so ?
jasmeet_89haha
imnet4alladmins: Late Registration please??
ajinkyacome on INdai
jasmeet_89aur bataoon??
harvey6ftharvey6ft = Brian Flood
ajinkyaINDIA
TheFaxmanimnet4all: sorry, we can't add people after reg closes
Pritamabhicool: was having some net problems
bozzballhow do you enter the room?
sushant_singhlolz
klopyrevgurugan1: Hey
gurugan1hey
jasmeet_89chal mai apney rccc sey karta hun log in ussi sey khelunga
bozzballi've registered but enter is not available
indiancometadmins: cant enter...
gurugan1klopyrev: how is it going?
ion_hpatients it happens automatically
winyBT_Joe: thanks
jmpld40thanks to all the BT reps for a great chat
sushant_singhcome on !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11
imnet4alladmins: Only this time only? I promise it won't happen again
abhicoolPritam: ohhh
BT_Dustinharvey6ft: brian food? is brian eating you? who's brian? ;)
klopyrevgurugan1: Pretty good
TheFaxmanimnet4all: sorry, no exceptions
klopyrevgurugan1: You?
sushant_singhyeah thanx too BT
gurugan1klopyrev: preety awesome
neollesWhat is the real world?
AmithBT_Joe: Thanks to all BT reps
bonifatioautomatically ?? whoa i love automatically
catkinsounds nice bt~
gurugan1klopyrev: i was downtown last night until 12.
srik_samaimnet4all: you made TheFaxman's day ;)
neollesWho is the one?
bozzballenter is lit up for the other contest - the TCHS one
Jadrimanthanks guys
supritiBT_Dustin: yup bt the same probs...... im still stuck wid vectors hehe
bozzballbut i registered for the other one
deepupaiadmin: cant enter
deepupaiadmin: cant enter
jmpld40again, post questions here afterwards: http://forums.topcoder.com/?module=ThreadList&forumID=516666
klopyrevgurugan1: Cool
rahullakcoder29: yeah u too
born_2_codenameste.!!!!!!!!
jmpld40opt in here: http://www.topcoder.com/tc?module=Static&d1=sponsors&d2=bt
sushant_singhcome on !!!
sushant_singhlet me enter now
bonifatio2 minutes!!!!
v4vishalwhere the hell are assignments?
jasmeet_89ENTER ENTER ENTER
sushant_singhi min 10 sec
ion_hwho's going to use all the junk we program?
bozzballadmins > i registered for srm 359, but enter has appeared for tchs srm 359
imnet4alladmins: i have been trying to register for the past 10 minutes, and i don't know what was wrong
klopyrevgurugan1: rooms
ajinkyafrom where are you susha
Insightpatience is a virtue...
Pritamv4vishal: hi:)
Soultakerv4vishal: relax.
ajinkya*sushant
klopyrev.
BT_JoeGOOD LUCK!
gurugan1klopyrev: it was preety cool. i have never been downtown that late
gurugan1klopyrev: so what have you been up2?
diegocaminhaJUST WAIT
sushant_singhheyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
sushant_singhlemme enter noqw
klopyrev.
gurugan1klopyrev: i think it will be a delayed start this time
klopyrev.
beyonlin_scutgood luck, everyone!
Soyoja...
sushant_singhthis is cheating !!
bonifatio45 sec!
indiancometadmins: enter is greyed out
sushant_singhi am from delhi
kfranewhen can we enter the SRM
Eeyorelars: Laaaaaars!
jturame too :S
bonifatio30 sec!
harvey6ftGood luck in the Arena Everyone!!
jmpld40good luck everyone
code_rasherdfdf
BT_Joeadmins: Brian
kfraned
ajinkyastopped
kp7lag test
ankur_vjy20 secs
XXI15
weekwhat happpen?
sushant_singhdelhi
ajinkya15 secs
BT_Joeadmins: brian
kfranewhen can we enter srm?
[sur]satawhat happened
PuPulliBT_Dustin: you guys left?
ajiu09Anyone Alive?
supritiabhicool: gosh possibly net dus srm light gone
BT_DustinPuPulli: no, still here
supritiabhicool: '
ArthurBhey
harvey6ftBT_Joe: yeah, this is me, Brian
ArthurBwhere are room assignments !
imnet4alladmins: Allright, Thanks for your time Faxman
BT_Joeadmins: So what next
BT_Joeadmins: how do we whisper
writer2BT_Joe: use /msg